I have to agree with David's post.
We chose you over other options because of the BSD license.  It gave us
legal protections we could no get with LGPL.

BSD Allows start ups to raise funds. Why? because investors are not going
to fund a company that can't protects its code.
Remember there is no legal ambiguity with the BSD license and plenty with
the LGPL.  And Legal ambiguity is the kiss of death for investors.

With success, funds can be donated back to the base project when using a
BSD license.

To be honest... I think you cut your nuts off.   You could have focused on
marketing your
professional consulting services or development services and raised funds
that way.
You could also have modified the licensee or added a commercial license.
QT seems to be doing very well.
You could have also been genuine and simply asked for financial
assistance.   You could have had fund raisers, on line or in person.
BSD unix makes it annual budget with on-line fund raising.

And when I say give back after the fact, its not lip service.  Not only did
we intend to give back to e17/e18/3x but
we have budgeted for it.  In fact we have added LINE ITEMS on our budget to
cover quarterly donations for open source code that we use.

And it makes scene for us.  Open source developers develop the base product
and we put a functional and good looking wrapper on it for end
users.  Open source teams do what they do well, which is develop core
technologies, and we do what we do well, sell and market.
( and build functional and good looking wrappers)

So,  what do we do now?   Find a new desktop?  But we have been working on
e17 /e18
for a while....   Our second choice was QT as they have a commercial
license.

On top of finding a new desktop, now I have to adjust our budgets.  I have
to take out a line item.
Not a happy camper.




On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Thomas Strobel <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 19:14 -0200, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> > this was on purpose.
> >
> > The recent authors (cedric, me, tom...) decided they didn't like BSD
> > as the ancient and the license was hurting us as nobody gave back.
> > Then when we created Eina to unify data types in ecore and evas, we
> > proposed to do it in LGPL and people accepted, raster was okay with
> > that and so we did.
> >
>
> Thanks for the explanation. Just out of curiosity, did it help? I mean,
> did you get more people to contribute back to the project now?
>
> > we couldn't change the license of the whole code to LGPL because of
> > practical issues (we'd have to contact and get permission of all
> > authors), then as the BSD licensed code is basically "casted" into
> > LGPL automatically there is no problem in mixing them.
> >
> > You should consider the thing as LGPL.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew F <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > Thomas,
> > > Thanks for pointing  that out.  Good question.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Thomas Strobel <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> i have a question concerning the licensing of EFL. What it the thought
> > >> behind releasing Eina with LGPL whereas almost everything else is
> under
> > >> BSD? I mean, Eina is the most fundamental part out of all, but has the
> > >> least permissive license. And as Eina is making heavy use of inline
> > >> functions, that implicitly forces the BSD licensed parts to LGPL as
> > >> well, or?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >>   Thomas
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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