On 01/25/2014 09:35 AM, Andrew F wrote: > I have to agree with David's post. > We chose you over other options because of the BSD license. It gave us > legal protections we could no get with LGPL. > > BSD Allows start ups to raise funds. Why? because investors are not going > to fund a company that can't protects its code. > Remember there is no legal ambiguity with the BSD license and plenty with > the LGPL. And Legal ambiguity is the kiss of death for investors. > > With success, funds can be donated back to the base project when using a > BSD license. > > To be honest... I think you cut your nuts off. You could have focused on > marketing your > professional consulting services or development services and raised funds > that way. > You could also have modified the licensee or added a commercial license. > QT seems to be doing very well. > You could have also been genuine and simply asked for financial > assistance. You could have had fund raisers, on line or in person. > BSD unix makes it annual budget with on-line fund raising. > > And when I say give back after the fact, its not lip service. Not only did > we intend to give back to e17/e18/3x but > we have budgeted for it. In fact we have added LINE ITEMS on our budget to > cover quarterly donations for open source code that we use. > > And it makes scene for us. Open source developers develop the base product > and we put a functional and good looking wrapper on it for end > users. Open source teams do what they do well, which is develop core > technologies, and we do what we do well, sell and market. > ( and build functional and good looking wrappers) > > So, what do we do now? Find a new desktop? But we have been working on > e17 /e18 > for a while.... Our second choice was QT as they have a commercial > license. You can use Qt to write applications without a commercial license, they have a extension to there lGPL license that clarify's that using enums / function calls / whatever from public header files is considered general use and does not make a application written with those libraries a derivative work. In short you don't need a commercial license to write applications that use Qt (According to my company's legal team). I have seen other toolkits that clarify the apparent ambiguity in the lGPL by making public header files licensed bsd but everything else lGPL.
Cheers Simon > On top of finding a new desktop, now I have to adjust our budgets. I have > to take out a line item. > Not a happy camper. > > > > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Thomas Strobel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 19:14 -0200, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>> this was on purpose. >>> >>> The recent authors (cedric, me, tom...) decided they didn't like BSD >>> as the ancient and the license was hurting us as nobody gave back. >>> Then when we created Eina to unify data types in ecore and evas, we >>> proposed to do it in LGPL and people accepted, raster was okay with >>> that and so we did. >>> >> Thanks for the explanation. Just out of curiosity, did it help? I mean, >> did you get more people to contribute back to the project now? >> >>> we couldn't change the license of the whole code to LGPL because of >>> practical issues (we'd have to contact and get permission of all >>> authors), then as the BSD licensed code is basically "casted" into >>> LGPL automatically there is no problem in mixing them. >>> >>> You should consider the thing as LGPL. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew F <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>> Thomas, >>>> Thanks for pointing that out. Good question. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Thomas Strobel <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> i have a question concerning the licensing of EFL. What it the thought >>>>> behind releasing Eina with LGPL whereas almost everything else is >> under >>>>> BSD? I mean, Eina is the most fundamental part out of all, but has the >>>>> least permissive license. And as Eina is making heavy use of inline >>>>> functions, that implicitly forces the BSD licensed parts to LGPL as >>>>> well, or? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Thomas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >>>>> Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >>>>> Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. >>>>> Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >>>>> >>>>> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> enlightenment-devel mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >>>> Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >>>> Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. >>>> Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >>>> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> enlightenment-devel mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >> Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >> Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. >> Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
