On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 02:22:42PM +0100, Tom Hacohen wrote:
> On 23/08/16 14:17, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i am not so happy with the name efl_self.
> >
> > Reason for that is that "self" is in the context of other languages
> > completly different compared to our use in efl_add.
> > People got confused by it, and used it wrong (We just had the case on irc).
> > And even if they get a error and see pretty quick that this will not
> > work, they still think of the usage of self from other languages.
> >
> > So I would like to propose a name like efl_add_object, efl_add_obj,
> > efl_added which really tells this only makes sense with efl_add,
> > and does not use a keyword which is used different in other languages.
> >
> > Objections / Input ?
> >
> 
> I don't really care one way or the other, but just going to say what I 
> said before on IRC so both side of the argument are represented:
> 
> Our usage of "self" is not completely different to other languages. We 
> use it to mean "self" just like every other language, but our scope 
> where it's allowed is smaller, only in eo_add().

I think the more dangerous part here is that eo_add(XYZ_CLASS, parent,
func_set(efl_self)); does not really look like opening up "a new" scope, 
If you dont really know what eo_add is doing, then it looks like the
result of func_set is passed in as a argument to efl_add. So efl_self
does not really describe what it really is.

Sure you will learn it, you will see it, earlier or later, but why
making it hard to do/learn instead of just call it efl_added (or smth.
like that) where it is more obvious to people that this is NOT what self
is like in other languages.

> 
> People will get confused once, and then when they see it doesn't work 
> will hopefully read the docs/ask if not just understand on their own. 
> Amount of time spent per person: 1 minute in a lifetime (unlikely anyone 
> will repeat this twice). Literally not worth adding an extra letter to 
> type/read for.
> 
> As I said though, I don't really care either way, though I think 
> efl_self is much better than efl_add_obj/object.
> 
> --
> Tom.
> 
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