Hello.

On 05/16/2017 01:17 AM, Simon Lees wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05/16/2017 07:09 AM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>> https://ffmpeg.org/developer.html#Code-of-conduct
>>
> 
> I don't think a code of conduct is really necessary here, my reading of
> this thread having spent some time talking to William on IRC in the
> prior is that if people communicated with some care none of this would
> have ever happened.
> 
> I'm going to call people out here because they should know and do
> better. Raster your communication in this thread has been that of an
> utter jerk I don't think I missed anything but there was absolutely no
> reason why you should have started using the language and tone you did.
> 
> Had you written one clear email better outlining the way the project
> works in a nicer tone i'm guessing this would be resolved and there
> would be no issue. An example of this could be yes any developer may
> push a simple work around fix to any repo as they see it (although if
> they are not active there its best to first check with someone who is)
> at a later date if someone comes up with a better fix they can just
> revert the temporary fix.
> 
> Had you communicated with me in the way you communicated with William
> when I first joined the project I wouldn't still be here now. From
> everything i've seen William seems like a decent person with good
> intentions who has seen a problem (the lack of a decent simple text
> editor for enlightenment) and is trying to fix that problem we really
> should be encouraging people like that not putting them off. We have
> often spoken about ways to get people better engaged with the community
> both from inside and outside Samsung, what you have done in this thread
> is taken someone who was actively trying to get involved in our
> community and turned them away, which is really quite disappointing. I
> know your busy at TDC but I suggest that once your back you should go
> out of your way to try and repair the situation your poor communication
> has caused. There is nothing wrong with the action you did in commenting
> out some code (within how we tend to work as a community) but your
> communication around it absolutely stank.
> 
> I'm also going to call out Stephen because in this thread you simply
> acted like a Jerk without adding anything of meaning to the discussion.
> 
> To finish let me be clear if someone comes in here acting like an arse I
> have no problem with them being put in there place and sent away our
> community shouldn't have to tolerate people being arses, but in this
> case there was someone doing there best in good faith to do everything
> right by the community and they were treated appallingly by senior
> members of our community for no good reason and thats just not on.

I agree that the shushing for raster and Stephen is deserved.

What I not agree with is the painting of William as an innocent victim 
here. He had the same impact on this exploding situation.

I never had contact with him before (neither IRC nor mail) besides this 
thread and I see tons on snide remarks from his side. Almost in every 
mail. So, Simon, if you are going to shush people, William should also 
be part of it.

For me all of them are candidates for the 24-hours-no-mail-client coolbox :)

regards
Stefan Schmidt

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