Hello Stephen,
I see your point....considering that the practical function of the "spirit"
... let's call it experience for my purpose here...is to guard against
known harm (or to allow the way toward known beneficial outcomes) then
experience does sort of look back "in memory" to or at a stored future of
past experience to help decide whether a present course of action is
advisable or not.... but the actual "things" that are recorded "in memory"
experience actually happened in the past... so in that sense, I think that
Bergson had the time line right... What concerned me in the past (when I
first heard of this question) and what still does about Bergson's
"spirit".... is what it ("spirit") actually was? Bergson seemed (in my
opinion) to say that the "spirit" knowledge or experience in memory was not
"physical" which is to say, not a piece of material "brain", let's say but
that it had some sort of non-physical existence... this seems right when
one considers such words as "idea", "concept", "form", "mental image" and
the like... and these "spirit memory thingies" can certainly be contained
outside the physical brain and be passed on to others... by writings,
recordings. relayed messages, etc.... but even the outside recorded
"stimuli" of these secondary sources are just markers for a sought effect
that has to be registered by a physical brain (by every physical brain that
cares to "know" that thingy).... so the question still remains... what the
heck are those "spirit" thingies.... are they physical (material objects)
in any case... living ideas just waiting out there to be thought up,
experienced or "discovered"? ... OR are they just random recorded firings
of neurons excited in a particularly sequenced manner?.... HAR.....
Objective or Subjective....?
On Friday, December 21, 2012 1:28:07 AM UTC-5, stephenk wrote:
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> On 12/20/2012 12:50 PM, nominal9 <nom...@yahoo.com> <javascript:> wrote:
> > *Matter and Memory*
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> > The spirit is the abode of the past, the body
> > of the present; the soul or spirit always anchored in the past, not
> > residing in the present; lodged in the past and contemplating the
> present.
> > To have or take conscience of anything, means looking at it from the
> > viewpoint of the past, in light of the past.
>
> Hi nominal9,
>
> ��� Doesn't this seem backward somehow? Spirit should be considered
> to be in the future, looking back through the present to the Past, making
> sure that the body never behaves now in a way that is inconsistent with its
> past behavior.
>
>
> --
> Onward!
>
> Stephen
>
>
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