If you don't have sense, you can't discern identity. If you don't have a 
sense to compare and infer among sensations, there can be no action or 
sequence. If you begin with sense, then energy and time are two halves of 
the same thing, which is that sense of comparison of experiences, and space 
is the sense of contrast between parallel histories of experience.

Craig


On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:50:07 AM UTC-4, Lonnie Clay wrote:
>
> At the minimum, you need an identity, an action, and a sequence to exist. 
> That requires space, energy, and time. Whether energy should be considered 
> a dimension is dependent upon whether there exists a minimum quanta of 
> energy required for the least action operation. See :
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/lonniecourtneyclay/home/blarney-part1-mythology
>
> Lonnie Courtney Clay
>
>
> On Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:58:59 PM UTC-7, sadovnik socratus wrote:
>>
>>    Reference frames and  Existence.
>>
>> ===…
>>
>> There are many pretty solid theories.
>>
>> How can be known which  theory  is wrong and  which  theory is true ?  
>>
>> The answer depends on which reference frame  the theory is based. 
>>
>> The conception of reference frame  is the key to know if the theory is 
>> true one.
>>
>> # 
>>
>>  We know  many different   reference  frames
>>
>> ( free, open, closed , 2D, 3D, 4D, 5D, 11D,  . . .  MD . . . .  )
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Existence cannot begin from a complex system.
>>
>> In the beginning  must be a simple model. 
>>
>> Therefore, I will take a  two dimensions space as the simplest model.
>>
>> But there are  two kinds of two dimensions:  the Euclidean ( 2D)  space 
>>
>> and  Minkowski  negative Pseudo- Euclidian - 2D space.
>>
>> What is possible to say about these systems ?
>>
>> Which  reference frame can be taken as a basis of Existence ?
>>
>> #
>>
>> Euclidean ( 2D)  reference frame belongs to  a gravity space 
>>
>> where space and time are two different substances.  
>>
>> Minkowski  negative Pseudo- Euclidian - 2D has no gravity 
>>
>> and space and time are one and the same unite continuum.
>>
>> #
>>
>> Later Descartes changed  Euclidean  two dimensions  into three 
>>
>>  dimensions  .  Living in this   Descartes  system of coordinate
>>
>>  we try to understand : where did our existence come from ?
>>
>> Then, in my opinion, it is logically to take Minkowski  negative 
>>
>> Pseudo- Euclidian - 2D ( without  gravity ) as the simplest model
>>
>>  to have the searching answer. 
>>
>> ============….
>>
>

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