Awori asked :
Could quantum of light be the original source of life forming atoms ? ====.... Answer: Lukin said. " What we have done is create a special type of medium in which photons interact with each other so strongly that they begin to act as though they have mass, and they bind together to form molecules. This type of photonic bound state has been discussed theoretically for quite a while, but until now it hadn't been observed. / *http://m.phys.org/news/2013-09-scientists-never-before-seen.html*<http://m.phys.org/news/2013-09-scientists-never-before-seen.html> / =. I think they didn't create a new " special type of medium " The cloud of rubidium atoms just a few degrees above absolute zero can be only in superconductivity state . . . . . then fired single photons into the cloud of superconductivity area .. . . . . . . . . something was happened . . . . they are binding together to form atoms. . . . What kind of atoms can they be? In my opinion: only atoms of helium II . . . . ? ! ? ! In my opinion: Light Quanta can be the original source of life forming atoms. # The behavior of photons in vacuum is deferent than in superconductivity state. ==========================…. A mark of Quantum Gravity. =. The theory of gravity must begin from quantum gravity, But we have not theory of quantum gravity and therefore it is possible to find many theories about this subject. =. My opinion. =. To create theory of gravity ( quantum gravity ) is needed a mass , an energy and a reference frame where the gravity can be created. The reference frame is a vacuum. The condition of mass is E=kT The condition of energy is E=h*f Then the process of beginning of gravitation can have scheme: h*v = kT logW. h*v > kT logW. h*v < kT . About which mass am I talking ? At first I am talking about very strange element helium II ( because its temperature very near to absolute zero ) and then about the second layer helium I. Later this system begins to revolve. And again the revolving helium is very different from all another liquids. Helium II rotates as a solid body ( hard elastic tourniquets) ! As result of this revolving the hydrogen was created. The scheme: h*v -- - > He II - - > He I -- - > H ( +70%) -- - > He (ordinary +20% ) --- - > the remainder is about 2% Explanation about behavior of helium were given by P. Kapitza , L. Landau and E.L. Andronikashvili . ( Superconductivity, superfluidity. . . . etc ) # The process of quantum gravity can go only when the mass of helium II is gathered in Avogadro's number of particles ( in a local place ) And when Helium II rotates it must create Loschmidt's number of particles in a given volume. # The process of gathering Loschmidt's number of particles in a given volume cannot be often action. Therefore we can read that: '' All the matter that we can see, however, appears to be no more than about 4% of the total masses. More than 90% in the Universe is unseen - dark matter ''. It is primary conditions of quantum gravity in my opinion. ==. Best wishes. Israel Sadovnik Socratus =… On Friday, September 27, 2013 2:05:50 PM UTC+2, Awori wrote: > In view of the above findings and our earlier discussions...could light be > the original source of life forming molecules....? > On Sep 27, 2013 2:54 PM, "awori achoka" <awori....@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> What do you make of this? >> >> http://m.phys.org/news/2013-09-scientists-never-before-seen.html >> On Aug 4, 2013 2:59 AM, "sadovnik socratus" >> <is.so...@gmail.com<javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >>> Reference frames and Existence.****** >>> >>> ===…**** >>> >>> There are many pretty solid theories.**** >>> >>> How can be known which theory is wrong and which theory is true ? * >>> *** >>> >>> The answer depends on which reference frame the theory is based. **** >>> >>> The conception of reference frame is the key to know if the theory is >>> true one.**** >>> >>> # **** >>> >>> We know many different reference frames**** >>> >>> ( free, open, closed , 2D, 3D, 4D, 5D, 11D, . . . MD . . . . )**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Existence cannot begin from a complex system.**** >>> >>> In the beginning must be a simple model. **** >>> >>> Therefore, I will take a two dimensions space as the simplest model.*** >>> * >>> >>> But there are two kinds of two dimensions: the Euclidean ( 2D) space >>> **** >>> >>> and Minkowski negative Pseudo- Euclidian - 2D space.**** >>> >>> What is possible to say about these systems ?**** >>> >>> Which reference frame can be taken as a basis of Existence ?**** >>> >>> #**** >>> >>> Euclidean ( 2D) reference frame belongs to a gravity space **** >>> >>> where space and time are two different substances. **** >>> >>> Minkowski negative Pseudo- Euclidian - 2D has no gravity **** >>> >>> and space and time are one and the same unite continuum.**** >>> >>> #**** >>> >>> Later Descartes changed Euclidean two dimensions into three **** >>> >>> dimensions . Living in this Descartes system of coordinate**** >>> >>> we try to understand : where did our existence come from ?**** >>> >>> Then, in my opinion, it is logically to take Minkowski negative **** >>> >>> Pseudo- Euclidian - 2D ( without gravity ) as the simplest model**** >>> >>> to have the searching answer. **** >>> >>> ============….**** >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Epistemology" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to epistemology...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>> To post to this group, send email to episte...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >>> . >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. 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