"Installation of the updates cause zero pain or inconvenience to the owners."
That is overstating things. Good has come from updates, but there are warts too. There is no undo/roll back option available to customers in case of botched updates, or updates that reduced features. Specific examples, from the forums and/or experience: -heated steering wheel stopped working after a certain update (fixed in later update) -forced battery capacity caps / range reductions on certain batteries, particularly on older cars -loss of split screen/upper-lower swap feature that was available on v8/8.1 but removed starting with v9. That was a downgrade for pre-interior refresh Model S/X owners. Split screen was useful for displaying built-in navigation in one window with a weather radar browser or Wayz browser window below it. -always on background maps (added in v9?) is a downgrade for Model S/X owners with MCU1. The MCU1 cpu/graphics system is not fast enough to make this a smooth experience. Related to this is an issue where if you have a destination in the navigation system, and then try to manually pan/zoom the map to somewhere else, the slow system takes a really long time to load the new map info. Often it will time out in the process and snap itself back to the original route before the details you were trying to see even load. -MCU1 had a minimally usable browser in v8.1 that is now an unusable browser in v10. Good things have also happened: -supercharging speed has increased on some cars from peaks of ~110 kW before dropping to the 90s (until about 50% full), to new peaks ~140 kW that drop to the 100s (until about 50% full). -Autopilot handles more situations than before, though still remains most suited to limited access freeways, and even there certain road configurations are handled poorly -Better driver feedback when weather conditions or camera obstructions are hindering Autopilot P.S. I am not sure how FSD can be achieved without reliable ways to deal with obstructions and/or loss of critical sensors/critical hardware. I'd think at a minimum, if the vehicle can't fix the problem itself, you need sufficient redundancy to safely stop the vehicle so that a person...or time...can address the problem. (Time might solve window fogging or sensor icing.) On Sun, Jul 11, 2021, 13:02 Willie via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > On 7/11/21 8:46 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: > > The sudden braking was caused by the radar. That one reason the removed > it from the latest vehicles > > Could be. The truth is that none of us know exactly what the problems > and trade offs are and that many features of Teslas are works in > progress. The "works in progress" will be interpreted as a negative by > some here. But it is not. I personally think FSD will be a roaring > success. If not in the next month or so, likely within a year. Some > here think not. All we know for sure is that Tesla has had great > success improving the cars as they age and that they have been highly > successful with customer satisfaction. With other cars, what is > delivered at the time of purchase is what you are stuck with for the > life of the car. With Tesla, corrections and improvements arrive > approximately monthly. Installation of the updates cause zero pain or > inconvenience to the owners. I am enthralled with the Tesla model of > development and don't expect to buy from another manufacturer. > > I suspect that much of the Tesla negativism you see here and elsewhere > come from people with little to no Tesla experience. Of course, they > are welcome to make their own purchase decisions. OTOH, spouting ill > informed FUD is doing a disservice to both Tesla and prospective buyers. > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210711/19450e67/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
