Thanks. Technically, you're correct. But I can see why someone servicing
the system might prefer a separate disconnect. It's 100% clear that
you're disconnected when you flip the switch. A GFCI, which might be
remote at an electrical panel, or might fail, isn't as safe in my
opinion. To me, having this new provision isn't a big deal. Putting in a
disconnect is an insignificant cost compared to a whole level 3
installation.
Peri
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------ Original Message ------
From: "(-Phil-)" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>
Sent: 26-Jan-26 09:14:12
Subject: Re: [EVDL] January 27, 2026 : Deadline for comments on TIA
#1874
An "emergency disconnect" (supposedly to protect first responders) for
a hardwired EVSE is redundant, as the GFCI will already serve this
purpose. In fact, the EVSE is safer than any other wiring in the
building.
On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 7:20 AM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:
Sorry, but could you explain a bit. I skimmed through the TIA language
but it seemed ok to me. It seems to apply mostly to level 3 hardwired
installations where they want an emergency power disconnect. This is
similar to outdoor HVAC units, which also require a disconnect within
a
certain distance of the units. It doesn't appear to apply to plug-in
level 2 EVSEs.
Peri
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Bryce Nesbitt via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Bryce Nesbitt" <[email protected]>
Sent: 25-Jan-26 23:21:20
Subject: [EVDL] January 27, 2026 : Deadline for comments on TIA #1874
>January 27, 2026 : Deadline for comments on TIA #1874
>
>Time critical update on highly impactful TIA Log No.: 1874 on
>shutoffs, affecting reliability of multifamily garages and remote
>charging stations:
>Comment Closing Date: January 27, 2026
>Submitter: Kris Dooley, Department of Homeland Security National
Urban Security
>
>The overall shutoff requirement confuses gas stations and EV
stations, applying
>a gas station rule to EV charging.
>
>https://docinfofiles.nfpa.org/files/AboutTheCodes/70/NFPA_70_Proposed_TIA_1874.pdf
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