On 10/16/2012 9:36 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Magic emergence from magic enough complexity has been advocated for almost anything. Most of the time as an excuse for not saying "I don´t know", that is the prerequisite for thinking deeper about the problem. I prefer to say I don´t know.

Hi Alberto,

I say " I am not sure", but will not retreat to a "hypothesis non fingo <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypotheses_non_fingo>" stance. It is better to guess and possibly be wrong (or right!) than to not guess (or "bet") at all.



2012/10/16 Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net <mailto:rclo...@verizon.net>>

    Hi Stephen P. King

    Thanks. My mistake was to say that P's position is that
    consciousness, arises at (or above ?)
    the level of noncomputability.  He just seems to
    say that intuiton does. But that just seems
    to be a conjecture of his.



    ugh, rclo...@verizon.net <mailto:+rclo...@verizon.net>
    10/16/2012
    "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen


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Onward!

Stephen

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