But arithmetic + comp might support string theory, and has too, if
matter is strings.
Also, arithmetic is simpler as it can be taught in high school, and I
think that you need arithmetic to understand string theory.
String theory assume the quantum theory, but the UD Argument shows
that if we want get both quanta and qualia properly, we have to
retrieve them form number or machine self-reference, so that if the
physical is really described by strings, then this will be explained
without assuming the quantum, nor the physical.
For matter, string theory seems promising, but for mind/matter, If
string theory is correct, and if we are Turing emulable at a level,
then string theory has to be a theorem (on universal number dreams
stabilizing, or something).
Bruno
On 17 Oct 2012, at 20:46, Richard Ruquist wrote:
In string theory compact dimensions support arithmetic,
which in turn supports the evolution of life and dreams.
Richard
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
wrote:
On 17 Oct 2012, at 10:12, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Life may support mathematics.
Arithmetic may support life. It is full of life and dreams.
Life is a computation devoted to making guesses about the future in
order to
self preserve . This is only possible in a world where natural
computers are
possible: in a world where the phisical laws have a mathematical
nature.
Instead of comp creating a mathematical-phisical reality, is the
mathematical reality what creates the computations in which we live.
So all kind of arbitrary universes may exist, but only (some)
mathematical
ones can harbour self preserving computations, that is, observers.
OK. But harboring self-preserving computation is not enough, it
must do in a
first person measure winning way on all computations going through
our
state. That's nice as this explain that your idea of evolution
needs to be
extended up to the origin of the physical laws.
Mathematics is just a collection of representations that are
internally logically consistent (note that the total mathematical
universe
is not a single consistent set!), so outside of that what is
there? Comp is
a mathematical model, its "support" outside of math remains to be
seen.
Comp, is a bet involving the physical world, and the first person
subject.
But by its very nature, it leads to doubt the necessity to bet about
something outside of a tiny part of arithmetic, for the ontology,
as the
"inside view" will already explode in a non mathematically
unboundable way.
You need only the Turing universal reality. It is not important to
choose
numbers, or lambda terms, or combinators, or the game of life
pattern, as
they all lead to the same couplings consciousness/realities.
The arithmetical reality escapes the computable reality, but the
computed
beings are confronted to both the computable and the non
computable, and a
complete transfinite ladder of surprises.
Bruno
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