Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy I always let the market decide. You can't go wrong that way.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/13/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-12, 11:06:43 Subject: Re: The unpredictability of solar energy Hi Roger, On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Roger Clough wrote: The unpredictability of solar energy ? I've lost the page ref for the graph below, but it's typical of numerous other graphs of the daily variation in solar energy on the internet. (For a comparison see solar variations on http://www.bigindianabass.com/big_indiana_bass/2010/01/yearly-water-temps-precip-and-solar-energy.html?) ? The hourly variation would be much worse, since the sun does not shine at night. ? The variation from day to day is unpredicatable and enormous, going from?ear 0 Ly to almost 100 Ly. This is probably due to variable cloud cover, not auto exhaust emissions. ? I'll stay with conventional electric power, thank you very much. ? ? ? ? Ly. Langley, a measurement of solar energy. One langley is equal to one gram-calorie per square centimeter. A gram-calorie is the amount of heat required to raise the temperature of one gram of water one degree Celsius. ? ? Good for you but perhaps bad for your wallet in long term. In Germany, many are starting to see that independence from fossil fuel monopolies is not just ideological... it turns citizens into energy traders instead of big oil slaves. See: In Germany, where sensible federal rules have fast-tracked and streamlined the permit process, the costs are considerably lower. It can take as little as eight days to license and install a solar system on a house in Germany. In the United States, depending on your state, the average ranges from 120 to 180 days. More than one million Germans have installed solar panels on their roofs. Australia also has a streamlined permitting process and has solar panels on 10 percent of its homes. Solar photovoltaic power would give America the potential to challenge the utility monopolies, democratize energy generation and transform millions of homes and small businesses into energy generators. Rational, market-based rules could turn every American into an energy entrepreneur. That transition to renewable power could create millions of domestic jobs and power in this country with American resourcefulness, initiative and entrepreneurial energy while taking a substantial bite out of the nation? emissions of greenhouse gases and other dangerous pollutants. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/13/opinion/solar-panels-for-every-home.html?_r=0 It's really not an ideological green vs. conservative matter. People just don't like being stolen from. The energy monopolies "thank YOUR wallet very much", as for solar panel users, we don't care if people have ideological axes to grind for which they want to pay, instead of trading themselves with that little patch of sunshine that everybody owns. For most I know, it's not an either/or thing anyway; everybody just wants to transition to energy that costs less in long term and that brings cash into the household, instead of burning it. To not give the wrong impression: these moves make politics more complex and we have huge problems facing us with renewable energy in terms of costly infrastructure and higher electricity bills in short to midterm, which this entails. But we can still opt for companies with fossil fuel based cheaper energy. And if people are starting to make money in sunny Germany where everybody goes for abundant sunshine and beaches, then for many parts of the US this would mean... PGC ---- ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/12/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
