Brent, thanks for the remark on the Th - salt fission prosess it may be workable if technically easily performed and safe - I claim obsolescence for not knowing the details.
You may be right with solar, just consider the surfaces to be covered with panels to match an increasing global energy requirement. I think the geothermic is a better option - not exclusively, but in addition. JohnM On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > On 1/13/2013 12:19 PM, John Mikes wrote: > > Brent: > if we agree with the Solar System origination from a dissection of the > (original-bigger) Sun, even the geothermic is "solar" energy. Well, 'wind' > definitely is, hydro indirectly. > > We need lots more of usable energy for humankind's survival - to save > energy <G> > and I am an advocate of the geothermal, transforming the (oil-wells in > exhaustion) into > steam-production by lowering the level into 'hot' depth and pumping down > desalinated water in a double conduit where the overheated steam can come > up into turbines (all figured within today's circumstances). It will save > profits to the oil magnets and is a pretty constant - hard-to-reduce > source. Sea-based hydro is another good option. > Just let's forget about coal, oil, nuke: coal and oil should be used as a > staple for chemicals (only), nuke should NOT be used as fission-process. > > > I think liquid salt thorium based fission reactors are a good energy > source. They can be used to burn up plutonium and uranium from aging > weapons. The radioactive material left to dispose of is orders of > magnitude smaller and it's hard to divert material to weapons. And since > solar and wind are variable we either need a way to store the energy > (dams?) or to supplement those sources. > > It is suicidal. > Any additional thoughts? > John M > > I have one objection to present terrestrial usage of solar energy: the > (NOW!) existing > technical level requires costly maintenance. I consider it temporary. > > > Most PV installers guarantee 80% rated power or more for 20yrs. A lot of > conventional power plants don't last more than 20yrs. In the long run, > everything is temporary. > > Brent > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 7:19 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> ??? Who asked you to? I guess you're unaware that hydroelectric >> generators depend on solar energy? And that the energy in coal and oil >> came from the Sun. And that it's not an either-or choice. And that the >> Sun shines all the time, just not on your spot? And that energy can be >> stored? I assume you're switching to nuclear. >> >> Brent >> >> On 1/12/2013 2:35 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >> >> The unpredictability of solar energy >> truncated >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2637/6023 - Release Date: 01/10/13 > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
