On 13 Jan 2013, at 12:03, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
I always let the market decide.
You can't go wrong that way.
I agree with you on this, but only if the press, the justice, the
politics, the police, ..., are kept independent. Which is no more the
case.
The prohibition laws have been a Trojan Horse for the bandits (since
Nixon).
The market does no more refer to the needs.
This leads to the contrary of what the market decide.
Lobbying should be forbidden.
The state should interfere with much less than today.
Our democracies are very sick. A large part of the market is build on
lies, this rotten all levels of the human society.
Bruno
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
1/13/2013
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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Subject: Re: The unpredictability of solar energy
Hi Roger,
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
The unpredictability of solar energy
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I've lost the page ref for the graph below, but it's typical
of numerous other graphs of the daily variation in solar energy on
the internet.
(For a comparison see solar variations on
http://www.bigindianabass.com/big_indiana_bass/2010/01/yearly-water-temps-precip-and-solar-energy.html?)
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The hourly variation would be much worse, since the sun does not
shine at night.
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The variation from day to day is unpredicatable and enormous,
going from?ear 0 Ly to almost 100 Ly. This is probably due to variable
cloud cover, not auto exhaust emissions.
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I'll stay with conventional electric power, thank you very much.
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Ly. Langley, a measurement of solar energy. One langley is equal to
one gram-calorie per square centimeter.
A gram-calorie is the amount of heat required to raise the
temperature of one gram of water one degree Celsius.
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Good for you but perhaps bad for your wallet in long term. In
Germany, many are starting to see that independence from fossil fuel
monopolies is not just ideological... it turns citizens into energy
traders instead of big oil slaves.
See:
In Germany, where sensible federal rules have fast-tracked and
streamlined the permit process, the costs are considerably lower. It
can take as little as eight days to license and install a solar
system on a house in Germany. In the United States, depending on
your state, the average ranges from 120 to 180 days. More than one
million Germans have installed solar panels on their roofs.
Australia also has a streamlined permitting process and has solar
panels on 10 percent of its homes. Solar photovoltaic power would
give America the potential to challenge the utility monopolies,
democratize energy generation and transform millions of homes and
small businesses into energy generators. Rational, market-based
rules could turn every American into an energy entrepreneur. That
transition to renewable power could create millions of domestic jobs
and power in this country with American resourcefulness, initiative
and entrepreneurial energy while taking a substantial bite out of
the nation? emissions of greenhouse gases and other dangerous
pollutants.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/13/opinion/solar-panels-for-every-home.html?_r=0
It's really not an ideological green vs. conservative matter. People
just don't like being stolen from.
The energy monopolies "thank YOUR wallet very much", as for solar
panel users, we don't care if people have ideological axes to grind
for which they want to pay, instead of trading themselves with that
little patch of sunshine that everybody owns.
For most I know, it's not an either/or thing anyway; everybody just
wants to transition to energy that costs less in long term and that
brings cash into the household, instead of burning it.
To not give the wrong impression: these moves make politics more
complex and we have huge problems facing us with renewable energy in
terms of costly infrastructure and higher electricity bills in short
to midterm, which this entails. But we can still opt for companies
with fossil fuel based cheaper energy.
And if people are starting to make money in sunny Germany where
everybody goes for abundant sunshine and beaches, then for many
parts of the US this would mean...
PGC
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[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
1/12/2013
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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