Roger,
I liked your "1p think therefore 1p am"

But your statement below, although correct , is much too vague.

Quantum mechanics is not understood because it is not complete.
Feynman came close to completing it but still missed an essential property.

That property is that the quantum mind has instant action.
Something you have been preaching for some time.
With instant action, the quantum mind can be understood.

Instant action derives directly from your claim that
the quantum mind from monads to quantum fields
are out side of spacetime.

I just add that it is effectively out of spacetime
because the quantum mind is a
 Bose-Einstein Condensate BEC.
which allows the monads to be distributed thru-out the universe yet
act as though they were out of spacetime.
Richard

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From: Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 5:01 AM
Subject: the curse of materialism
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Hi socra...@bezeqint.net

You want to know why nobody understands QM ?
Because QM is nonphysical, but is treated as being physical.
This might be called the curse of materialism.


[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
1/16/2013
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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Time: 2013-01-15, 11:20:20
Subject: Re: Science is a religion by itself.


Physics and Metaphysics.

John Polkinghorne and his book ? Quantum theory?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Polkinghorne
=== .

John Polkinghorne took epigraph for his book ? Quantum theory?
the Feynman? thought : ? I think I can safely say that
nobody understands quantum mechanics. ?
Why?
Because, he wrote:
? ,we do not understand the theory as fully as we should.
We shall see in what follows that important interpretative
issues remain unresolved. They will demand for their
eventual settlement not only physical insight but also
metaphysical decision ?.
/ preface/
? Serious interpretative problems remain unresolved,
and these are the subject of continuing dispute?
/ page 40/
? If the study of quantum physics teaches one anything,
it is that the world is full of surprises?
/ page 87 /
? Metaphysical criteria that the scientific community take
very seriously in assessing the weight to put on a theory
include: . . . .?
/ page 88 /
?uantum theory is certainly strange and surprising, . . .?
/ page92 /
? Wave / particle duality is a highly surprising and
instructive phenomenon, . .?
/ page 92 /
==.
In my opinion John Polkinghorne was right writing
what to understand and to solve the problems of the Universe:
? They will demand for their eventual settlement not only
physical insight but also metaphysical decision ?.
/ preface /
And, maybe, Aristotle was right separating the world and knowledge
on two parts: Physics and Metaphysics.
=== .
Somebody wrote:
The science will purify the religion of the ?ross?.
I agree.
===========.
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
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