Besides Di Bono, there's the dude Bruce Bueno Di Mesquito, who's supposed to be the great predictor. -----Original Message----- From: Kim Jones <kimjo...@ozemail.com.au> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Jun 15, 2014 9:37 pm Subject: Re: Turing test passed? Another sucker born every minute
On 16 Jun 2014, at 1:14 am, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: That guy was Edward de Bono. He was the first one to say that intelligence is the horsepower of the car whereas thinking ability is the skill with which the car is driven. If that's Edward de Bono's "theory" of intelligence then he might be able to get a job in a fortune cookie factory but not at Google or Apple or Microsoft, it explains nothing about why some things are intelligent and some things are not, it doesn't say a word about how intelligence actually works. And that's why Mr. de Bono is not a trillionaire. When a person (or more likely a machine) comes up with a good theory of intelligence YOU WILL KNOW, probably in just a matter of hours. John, hW De Bono was not theorist, that is true. He merely worked with intelligence and showed how thinking ability can be hoisted up to more effective levels despite intelligence or IQ as educators refer to it, IQ being one of the favourite Aristotelian boxes into which people are dumped, forever to sink deeper. What makes a human intelligent is CREATIVITY and that is by now well understood and no, machines (the human constructed ones) cannot do that yet. Nobody ever understands what creativity is about who does not separate perception from thinking. I asked de Bono in 2012 if he felt it were possible that one day machines would actually think, according to his definition of true thinking, which involves a studied use of creativity. His response was "only if they are allowed to do their own perception otherwise they will only be zombies." hY You don't need to have a theory of intelligence in order to use one, any more than you need to know how to tune a piano in order to know how to play one or understand the workings of a combustion engine to know how to drive a car. There is less of a need to have a theory of intelligence than there is a need for people to act intelligently. Someone can be plain daft and still show excellent thinking skills. There are many examples of those who made good with absolutely no chance at all in the IQ stakes. hR You don't have to worry about the size of your dick as long as you know how to use what you've been born with. Size may matter in some arcane respect but skill at use is what counts. The person who ultimately comes to possess a "winning theory of intelligence" may well be Mary Bloggs of Blainey who has no university education, was home-schooled and who cannot even complete a simple crossword, yet her perceptual ability outstrips a Nobel Laureate. hG Apart from that, I would say that a way to understand the workings of intelligence is to simply say that this is the speed factor involved in neurotransmission. hR You will in all probability say that this is wrong or inadequate. Why should today be different. hW Some people have fast, powerful minds, others do not. The ones who don't have the V8 engines upstairs tend to be the ones who exercise caution and think slowly. You might have a lousy IQ but you can still succeed in life if you use what you've got and practise thinking. Machines, when and if they ever get an intelligence, will have precisely this issue to deal with as well. hR Intelligence is not the main issue. We've all got one but what we do not yet adequately understand is what makes a PERSON. For my money that has something to do with Comp. Kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
