On Monday, June 16, 2014 3:29:43 PM UTC+1, John Clark wrote:
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> On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Kim Jones <kimj...@ozemail.com.au 
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>> > What makes a human intelligent is CREATIVITY and that is by now well 
>> understood and no, machines (the human constructed ones) cannot do that 
>> yet. 
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> The definition of creativity is not constant, it is whatever computers 
> can't do YET.  Before Google In the late 1990s being the best research 
> librarian in the world took creativity, but not today. For thousands of 
> years being the best chess player in the world took creativity but that 
> stopped being true in 1997.  Being the  best Jeopardy champion on the 
> planet took creativity until things suddenly changed in 2010, and solving 
> differential equations stopped being creative in the 1980s. 
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might be wrong but creatively seems almost as mercurial as consciousness. 
Not sure such thing exists but fair enough some word is needed to fill that 
blank. 

What you say about it above. Do you not find these mysteries of the brain 
interesting....or is it more you sort of got fed up with endless navel 
gazing on such things? I mean...I bet you do think about these questions 
quietly, when no one is looking? 

Computers still aren't very good at image recognition so we should reflect 
> on that fact while we still can, therefore I  suggest that June 23 (Alan 
> Turing's birthday by the way) be turned into a international holiday called 
> "Image Recognition Appreciation Day". On this day we would all reflect on 
> the creativity required to recognize images. It is important that this be 
> done soon because although computers are not very good at this task right 
> now that will certainly change in the next few years. On the day computers 
> become good at it the laws of physics in the Universe will change and 
> creativity will no longer be required for image recognition.  
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> > You don't need to have a theory of intelligence in order to use one, any 
>> more than you need to know how to tune a piano in order to know how to play 
>> one 
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> It's true that even a great pianist need not have any idea of how his 
> piano works, but it's not true if he intends to make a better piano, then 
> he had better have a very good theory of pianos.   
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> >  a way to understand the workings of intelligence is to sim 
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> ply say that this is the speed factor involved in neurotransmission. 
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> Some signals in the brain move as slowly as .01 meters per second, the 
> slow diffusion of some hormones for example, but even the very fastest 
> signals in the brain move at only 100 meters per second. Light moves at 
> 300,000,000 meters per second, and in a computer the distances the signal 
> must travel will be shorter because the components are smaller. Game over.
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>   John K Clark
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