On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Kim Jones <kimjo...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > On 17 Jun 2014, at 10:02 pm, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote: > > What makes a human intelligent is CREATIVITY and that is by now well >> understood and no, machines (the human constructed ones) cannot do that yet. >> > > Kim, what do you think of this: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_antenna > > > I find that very exciting indeed, Telmo. This indeed looks like real > creativity to me. The process of selecting the right shape came about by a > random generator followed by evaluation of usefulness. That's precisely > what Lateral Thinking is and does. > Glad you liked it! > > This bit is even more to the point: > > "The resulting antenna often outperforms the best manual designs, because > it has a complicated asymmetric shape that could not have been found with > traditional manual design methods." > > Creativity involves CURIOSITY ("Suck it and see..."). There is some kind > of attractor that pulls the interest, the attention for a human that sends > the mind in a certain direction. Judgement is suspended while exploration > takes place. The machine on the other hand can approximate that with random > choice algorithms. > This is something that I always felt strongly about: the importance of randomness in "true" AI. I find it somewhat surprising how it is absent from most discussions of AI, excluding the evolutionary computation community. > The only thing missing here from this is self-awareness. > Maybe... > Otherwise I would say we have the basis of personhood. So, I was wrong. A > machine can pull something out of nothing. It's still a bit zombified but > getting close. > Thanks. > Cheers Telmo. > > Kim > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
