If people have some unknown psychic powers, prayers might do some good even
without a God (unlikely, I imagine, but who knows?).

Or maybe praying and believing someone is listening just does you good
psychologically.

On 4 June 2015 at 09:38, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Ah, the plenitude, how about this?
>
> http://phys.org/news/2015-06-strange-behavior-quantum-particles-parallel.html
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com>
> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Jun 3, 2015 05:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Samiya proved right
>
>
>  This discussion-post approaches some better reality-case than most of
> the others.  Reminds me of the Worldview of my wife: we are "here" by
> decree of some "ZOOKEEPER" as long as 'they' want something we provide (for
> them).
> We do not know them, don't communicate with them. When our 'usefulness' is
> over, we perish.
>
>  My - more human-logic based natural scientific agnosticism (call it
> common sense)  - places the "ORIGIN" (incl.: the propagational steps) into
> the infinite complexity of this Universe (that may be much larger than
> whatever we call 'our' Cosmos) and an infinite composite - I call it
> 'Plenitude' - that does not tolerate complexities yet all ingredients
> fluctuate in ceaseless conflation. Complexity comes into play, when
> 'relatable' ingredients mass up in the fluctuation and screw up the
> equilibrium of the Plenitude. I call such violations 'Universes" - they
> dissipate as they form (no time factor - maybe) with diverse complexity in
> such groups.
>
>  It is not a 'created' world, not a deterministically forced order, not
> teleological or predetermined: it succumbs to the unlimited variations of
> the participants as they enter the image. Under such (self-controlled -
> iff??) conditions *our* Universe is of a lower complexity (SPACE - TIME
> SYSTEM?) and OTHERS MAY BE MORE SOPHISTICATED (the Zookeepers?).
>
>  Accordingly 'prayer' is senseless, much more so 'praying' to a
> supernatural being with infinite wisdom and power (that would pretend to
> PRESCRIBE to such Being what to do BEST - as WE think of it). To 'praise'
> such Being? it may be ridiculous, if not supposing the 'narcisstic brutal
> nature' someone mentioned lately on this list. My example: 2 mothers 'pray'
> identically for the safe homecoming of their sons from the same war. Both
> are 'good' etc. One son comes home safe, the other in a body bag. Add a
> third one to my example and that 3rd one comes home mentally(bodily?)
> destroyed. Some bad guys come home safely.
>
>  As a child, I was raised religiously, served even as a Catholic
> altar-boy and studied several religions and Scripts. My wife was educated
> by nuns.
>
>  Just to tell my side
>
>  John M
>
>  On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:37 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <
> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>  Hey, I grew up watching the Organians do their thing. You leave human
> reaction to wide open. You want to pray to a baddie, or kick the shins of a
> goodie?
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com>
> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
>  Sent: Tue, Jun 2, 2015 10:58 pm
> Subject: Re: Samiya proved right
>
>     On 3 June 2015 at 14:56, spudboy100 via Everything List <
> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> So if contact is made to the godlikes, assuming that he, she, it, they,
> should they be worshipped? No? What if these imaginary guys did something
> really nice for us?
>
>  I think we should react to them as seems appropriate under the
> circumstances (like most things, really).
>
>  PS See early "Star Trek" for more details on how to react to godlike
> beings.
>
>
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