This discussion-post approaches some better reality-case than most of the others. Reminds me of the Worldview of my wife: we are "here" by decree of some "ZOOKEEPER" as long as 'they' want something we provide (for them). We do not know them, don't communicate with them. When our 'usefulness' is over, we perish.
My - more human-logic based natural scientific agnosticism (call it common sense) - places the "ORIGIN" (incl.: the propagational steps) into the infinite complexity of this Universe (that may be much larger than whatever we call 'our' Cosmos) and an infinite composite - I call it 'Plenitude' - that does not tolerate complexities yet all ingredients fluctuate in ceaseless conflation. Complexity comes into play, when 'relatable' ingredients mass up in the fluctuation and screw up the equilibrium of the Plenitude. I call such violations 'Universes" - they dissipate as they form (no time factor - maybe) with diverse complexity in such groups. It is not a 'created' world, not a deterministically forced order, not teleological or predetermined: it succumbs to the unlimited variations of the participants as they enter the image. Under such (self-controlled - iff??) conditions *our* Universe is of a lower complexity (SPACE - TIME SYSTEM?) and OTHERS MAY BE MORE SOPHISTICATED (the Zookeepers?). Accordingly 'prayer' is senseless, much more so 'praying' to a supernatural being with infinite wisdom and power (that would pretend to PRESCRIBE to such Being what to do BEST - as WE think of it). To 'praise' such Being? it may be ridiculous, if not supposing the 'narcisstic brutal nature' someone mentioned lately on this list. My example: 2 mothers 'pray' identically for the safe homecoming of their sons from the same war. Both are 'good' etc. One son comes home safe, the other in a body bag. Add a third one to my example and that 3rd one comes home mentally(bodily?) destroyed. Some bad guys come home safely. As a child, I was raised religiously, served even as a Catholic altar-boy and studied several religions and Scripts. My wife was educated by nuns. Just to tell my side John M On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:37 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hey, I grew up watching the Organians do their thing. You leave human > reaction to wide open. You want to pray to a baddie, or kick the shins of a > goodie? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> > To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tue, Jun 2, 2015 10:58 pm > Subject: Re: Samiya proved right > > On 3 June 2015 at 14:56, spudboy100 via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> So if contact is made to the godlikes, assuming that he, she, it, they, >> should they be worshipped? No? What if these imaginary guys did something >> really nice for us? >> >> I think we should react to them as seems appropriate under the > circumstances (like most things, really). > > PS See early "Star Trek" for more details on how to react to godlike > beings. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
