On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>> >> So which one will become the Moscow Man? The one that will see Moscow. >> What more is there to say? > > > > > That it confirms the prediction "W v M" made in Helsinki, > But there was supposed to be one new bit of information that is known after the experiment but not before, but before the experiment the Helsinki Man already knew that t he one that will see Moscow will become the Moscow man; so what exactly is that one new bit of information? > > > and that it refutes the prediction "W & M". > > I don't know if it refutes it or not, what exactly was the "W & M" prediction about? > > Then, given the numerical identity, it gives P(M) = P(W) = 1/2. > OK there is a 50-50 probability, but a 50-50 probability of who seeing what? >> >> >> So what was that one bit of information do you have after the experiment >> that you didn't have before? If Moscow is zero and Washington is one is >> that one bit of new information that you have now but didn't have before a >> zero or a one? > > > > > The M-man lived the apparent "collapse" from "W v M" to M (that gives him > one bit of first person information, that it can write in his personal > diary), and likewise the W-man lived the apparent "collapse" from "W v M" > to W, giving him one bit of information too. > That's nice, but Bruno Marcha l didn't answer the question, what was that one bit of information do *YOU* ** have after the experiment that *YOU* ** didn't have before? If this really is a question and is not gibberish then it has a one word answer, all John Clark wants to know is if that one word is zero or one. Is that so hard? > > > In the 3p description, we go from 0 bit to 0 bit, but in the 1p > experiences we go from 0 bit to 1 bit. > Irrelevant. What one new bit of information did *YOU* get after the experimental that *YOU* didn't have before? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
