On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 2:40 PM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:06 AM Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Add 2 +2 on your computer. Observe the output. Hit your computer as
>>> hard as you can with the hammer. Add 2 +2 on your computer again. Observe
>>> if the output has changed. Note that a hammer can change physical things
>>> but can't change arithmetic.
>>>
>>
>> *> From this logic we can conclude that past points in time belong in
>> arithmetic (since we can't change it, and it doesn't change).*
>>
>
> In a way that's true, you can record a image of the past as a static
> pattern that can be described as a number, but you can't calculate with
> nothing but a static pattern; and it's got to be a pattern of something, in
> most modern computers it's a pattern of voltages.
>

But if the laws of physics are deterministic, it's not only the past that
we can't change, but the present and future as well.  If we can't change
anything then, is there really any change? Or are we characters in a DVD
believing each frame of video we are in is the present?

Jason

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