> On 17 Sep 2019, at 20:05, Alan Grayson <agrayson2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 4:43:37 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:51 AM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
> 
> > Why don't you just accept that the wf is simply irrelevant after the 
> > measurement occurs
> 
> Because you can't explain exactly what is and what is not a "measurement". 
> And because tacking on complicated mathematical wheels within wheels to make 
> the wave function suddenly vanish would not improve the theories ability to 
> make observable predictions by one bit and would do absolutely nothing except 
> muzzle the Schrödinger Equation which is virtually shouting at us about the 
> nature of reality. The Many Worlds theory didn't tack on all those many 
> worlds, if you take a bare bones approach to quantum mechanics and add 
> nothing not needed to explain observation those worlds come naturally, they 
> can't be avoided.
> 
>  John K Clark
> 
> To be perfectly candid here, there's a disconnect that borders on insanity. 
> Some worthless asshole can go into a lab, do a double slit experiment, and 
> conjure possibly uncountable universes into existence, replete with possibly 
> many infinite stars, galaxies, and life forms. Can't you see how ridiculous 
> this is, hubris on steroids,

That is the argument of incredulity. But is it so ridiculous? The very starting 
motto of this list was that “all things” is simpler than one thing, or a finite 
number of things. There are many people, many planets, many solar (star) 
systems, many galaxies, … so why not many physical universes/histories?



> and by simply assuming the wf is irrelevant after the measurement occurs, 
> makes it all go away? AG 

This makes sense for all practical purposes, but we can’t dispose so easily 
from what the theory tells us when we search to understand instead of merely 
applying tools.

Bruno



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