On 9/9/2020 1:57 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 00:38, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com
<mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 6:18 AM Stathis Papaioannou
<stath...@gmail.com <mailto:stath...@gmail.com>> wrote:
/> You could say the “you” is at best ambiguous and at worst
meaningless in this case./
Yes, and that means a thought experiment that uses that personal
pronoun and is supposed to clear up confusion regarding personal
identity is an utter failure.
/> But if duplication were commonplace, people would use “you”. /
If duplication were commonplace then the English language would
need to undergo a RADICAL revision, especially in the way it users
personal pronouns.
> /Most who go through duplication would advise their friends,
“don’t bet on a prime number, because going on my experience,
you are unlikely to get it”./
Who is unlikely to get it?
That is the point: this is how people will talk. “I went through
duplication, and I woke up in a little room. I was asked to guess if
it was a prime numbered room. Like a fool, I guessed yes. Don’t make
the same mistake if you are duplicated! Guess no!”
In fact, don't make the same mistake even if you aren't duplicated (how
would you know?). There a lot more numbers than there are prime numbers.
Brent
Someone will say that the pronouns do not have the same meaning any
more, but so what, you can’t argue with thousands of people, even
previous pronoun sceptics, telling the same story.
John K Clark
> The “you” cannot refer to a magical soul, because
such a thing never existed in the first place.
I agree with that but I don't think "you" refers to
anything or anyone. Of course all this confusion could be
avoided if people would simply stop using personal
pronouns in thought experiments that are supposed to make
Abstract ideas about personal identity clearer.
John K Clark
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