On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 8:47:03 AM UTC-6 medinuclear wrote:

> [*Philip Benjamin*]
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> Wave equation? Of what? Wavy Particles? Or Wave-like Particles? Wavy 
> particles is a paradox, a puzzle, a mystic mystery!! That is how a purely 
> scientific theory such as Quantum Mechanics became so confounded with 
> absurdities and speculations. Puzzle in, puzzle out!! There are  and never 
> can be wavicles, only particles that behave AS IF in wave forms. An *AS 
> IF Logic* is all that is needed, not *Both &* Fallacy. The Schrodinger 
> Cat was introduced only to show the absurdity of taking probability 
> statistics seriously. Probabilities are not all possibilities. Some of 
> these pioneers of QM were occultists, alcoholics and some other serious 
> addictions. That is how the sorcerer-psychiatrist Carl Jung joined them. 
> Worldviews determine scientific interpretations. Interpretations are not 
> theories.  CopenPagan Interpretation (a  malaprop) is a pagan world-view, 
> not scientific theory. That is how Albert Einstein strongly disagreed with 
> Niels Bohr.     
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> *Philip Benjamin*
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*You're an idiot. Please don't reply again on this thread. Apparently, 
you've never heard of something called an electron microscope. AG *

> Saturday, April 10, 2021 6:22 AM  everyth...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* 
> Re: Mixed State vs Superposition of States for Schrodinger's cat
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> When the box is closed, and before the measurement, why can't it be 
> claimed that the Cat is in a Mixed State, not a Superposition of States? 
> Only the latter leads to the paradox of a cat which is Alive and Dead 
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> Because the Wave equation in this setting leads to a pure state 
> dead+alive, and twe know that such pure state leads to different prediction 
> than any possible corresponding mixed states. (Assuming the SWE).
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> That’s true even if the box is open, but in that case, the pure state will 
> be lifted to the observer of the cat, who will become itself in a pure 
> state of seeing the cat dead and the cat alive, in parallel histories. In 
> this case, the indeterminacy is explained entirely by the same 
> indeterminacy occurring in, amoeba self-division, or in the infinite 
> multiplication of all relative universal number state in arithmetic.
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