On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 8:48:57 AM UTC-6 medinuclear wrote:
> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/57789/... > > “The myth that electrons are waves or behave as waves or sometimes are > waves and sometimes are not, depending of the observer, is one of the > more persistent myths that surround quantum mechanics. Electrons can > exist in the same state. E.g. one electron in an hydrogen atom can be in > the same state than another electron in another atom”. > > *Philip Benjamin* > > *Wave-likeness ≠ Waviness * > *I've asked you not to post on this thread. I am not interested in your worthless opinions. If electron waves didn't exist, neither would electron microscopes. AG* > > > everyth...@googlegroups.com <everyth...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Alan > Grayson > *Sent:* Saturday, April 10, 2021 2:02 PM *Subject:* Re: Mixed State vs > Superposition of States for Schrodinger's cat > > > > On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 8:47:03 AM UTC-6 medinuclear wrote: > > [*Philip Benjamin*] > > Wave equation? Of what? Wavy Particles? Or Wave-like Particles? Wavy > particles is a paradox, a puzzle, a mystic mystery!! That is how a purely > scientific theory such as Quantum Mechanics became so confounded with > absurdities and speculations. Puzzle in, puzzle out!! There are and never > can be wavicles, only particles that behave AS IF in wave forms. An *AS > IF Logic* is all that is needed, not *Both &* Fallacy. The Schrodinger > Cat was introduced only to show the absurdity of taking probability > statistics seriously. Probabilities are not all possibilities. Some of > these pioneers of QM were occultists, alcoholics and some other serious > addictions. That is how the sorcerer-psychiatrist Carl Jung joined them. > Worldviews determine scientific interpretations. Interpretations are not > theories. CopenPagan Interpretation (a malaprop) is a pagan world-view, > not scientific theory. That is how Albert Einstein strongly disagreed with > Niels Bohr. > > *Philip Benjamin* > > > > *You're an idiot. Please don't reply again on this thread. Apparently, > you've never heard of something called an electron microscope. AG * > > Saturday, April 10, 2021 6:22 AM everyth...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* > Re: Mixed State vs Superposition of States for Schrodinger's cat > > > > > > On 9 Apr 2021, at 06:42, Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > When the box is closed, and before the measurement, why can't it be > claimed that the Cat is in a Mixed State, not a Superposition of States? > Only the latter leads to the paradox of a cat which is Alive and Dead > simultaneously. AG > > > > > > Because the Wave equation in this setting leads to a pure state > dead+alive, and twe know that such pure state leads to different prediction > than any possible corresponding mixed states. (Assuming the SWE). > > > > That’s true even if the box is open, but in that case, the pure state will > be lifted to the observer of the cat, who will become itself in a pure > state of seeing the cat dead and the cat alive, in parallel histories. In > this case, the indeterminacy is explained entirely by the same > indeterminacy occurring in, amoeba self-division, or in the infinite > multiplication of all relative universal number state in arithmetic. > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/daecc06c-eded-4ae1-be7a-de40bc4053d2n%40googlegroups.com.
