The financial and corporate elites support both parties. When economic times are good they prefer the reps, but give support to the dems. In that way if the dems win the donors have influence. Curiously when time get really bad the financial and corporate donors prefer the dems, because the dems are more willing to pull the Keynesian levers to cover their butts. Obama in 2008 and the dems got almost twice the campaign dollars as the reps.
LC On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:03:40 AM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote: > Professor Crowell, we both know the reason for this. That reason is that > the campaign donations from the fossil fuel companies always cash. Please > also realize that Hedge Funder Tom Steyer & Ariana Huffington (once married > to John Kerry), pay campaign donations as well, big time. What is my point? > My point is that this American system of government is based on campaign > donation and this is an Oligarchy. It's corrupt all the way through. There > are no virtuous billionaires. Not Don, Not the Koch org, Not Harvey > Weinstein, not even Elon Musk. > > They simply say and do things we serfs like and so we cheer them on. > > Secondly your democratic leadership even with 2 houses of congress is so > lax in pursing a working energy proggie, that they pissed away more than a > year, while Vlad got ready to invade. Thus, doubling down on energy > troubles. > > So I say to you as the old western bartenders said to the cowboys, "Name > yer poison." > > Poison 1 is the dems who may or may not have an clue on energy but achieve > jack with it. > Poison 2 are us reps, who like pollution and enjoy life while we can, > ignoring AGW. We are like the old coal miners who dug number 9 coal and > relaxed with a pack of Camels. Ah! Now we're in flavor country. > > Downside of the the dems? They fumble and do not achieve. > Downside of Reps, we don't care! > > Since Putin, please remember that under Trump we were oil and gas > exporters most of the time-dirty as it is! > Now, the EU risks falling apart from Vlad (its a struggle Nato-wise) the > option would be to dig to get them off of Vlad's addiction. This means > pipelines and replacing Russian gas for the next few years!!! > > Allow me to remind of this ugly fact just 3 years ago from CNN, one of > yours needless to say. > Thank Trump for America's new oil markets | CNN Business > <https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/09/perspectives/trump-oil-markets-opec/index.html> > > On energy, I would opt for wrecking the climate more than having us and > our allies suffer energy starvation, LC, as grim as those two choices are. > The Biden-Warren energy plan was simply shutting things down without > creating & implementing new sources. Like I said, the dems had both houses > of congress + the prez to achieve this. So will they listen to you now and > get moving on it?? You know we won't. I'd go PV and batteries first. then > a charging infrastructure, yadda yadda, etc. > > Last, (very off topic) I remember you knew some person who was employed > by a US technical service shall we say, that focused on international > situations, to put it delicately. Could you please check if you feel its > convenient and it's worth your time, to see if they may have heard of a > changing international "focus" in the Pacific Rim?? The reason is that I > have seen one analyst on the region that I found (in an interview) state > something (for me) alarming & plausible. (to me). > > Be well, > > Spud the nervous > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence Crowell <goldenfield...@gmail.com> > To: Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2022 9:01 pm > Subject: Re: Do you have a right to travel? Republicans say no. > > Yes there are technological solutions to solve aspect of the climate > problem. Interestingly, the republicans work tirelessly to prevent their > implementation. > > LC > [image: trump as working man champion.jpg] > > On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 5:29:56 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote: > > I question humanity's survival from a Putin initiated Nuclear Attack and > not the climate getting hotter. 538 can be indeed accurate, but the rising > violent crime rate does not seem to be illusory. For my values, drilling > and mining are far better, even though they lead to more, bad, climate, > crap. > > Because, it is better than allowing people to die in the heat, or freeze > in the dark, and based on the writings of many environmentalists, they are > good with this, because they are "saving the earth." I get this on Reddit > quite often. Yes, I would agree that this is likely to be a skewed > sampling. > > For climate and even Putin, there are technological fixes to be applied. > For expecting too much from one's fellow primates, I would invoke the > singing of American social philosopher, Joey Ramone. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfIfzVf8t6E > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence Crowell <goldenfield...@gmail.com> > To: Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2022 9:30 am > Subject: Re: Do you have a right to travel? Republicans say no. > > On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 3:08:30 AM UTC-5 telmo wrote: > > > > Am So, 17. Jul 2022, um 08:52, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List: > > I will use another democratic party media source as my contention that > violent crime has risen. > Denver 7 (one of yours LC) > > https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/americas-cities-are-seeing-drastic-rises-in-violent-crime > > and, with other local dem sources I will continue- > > https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7/15/23216341/violent-crime-soared-arrests-historic-lows-chicago-police-department-david-brown-lori-lightfoot > > > https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/us-city-violent-crime-rate-perception/661337/ > > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/07/16/crime-maryland-governor-race/ > > So, everybody, even in the hoods are wrong about violent crime, but white > liberals are correct because, people are racist, and racism, and bad, and > Trump too! On this one, LC you need to be selling your fellow democratic > voters say, the UAW, rather than me. > > > Yes, fuck official statistics! Let us rely instead on a bunch of > cherry-picked news items that mention local perceptions of increase in > violent crime without providing any evidence that this is the case. And let > us connect all this to the only thing that matters: political tribalism. > > Telmo > > > That was why I posted the 538 article. That is usually pretty credible. > > Biden and the dems are going to get snagged on the fuel prices in 2022 > elections. Never mind it has little to do with policies, and much to do > with supply chain failures with the pandemic and now the Russo-Ukraine war. > As per below with the decision to stop the pipeline, even if that were > running at full capacity now, which would not be possible, it would have > small impact on the price of oil. The price of oil is set on an > international market scale, not regionally or nationally. This is a mantra > that keeps going, drill-baby-drill, and keeps unthinking people going to > the polls to pull the GOP lever. > > To be honest this is why I really question whether humanity can survive. > We need to get off the carbon energy cycle, and this summer is a serious > scorcher. But, people will not think and by the time we really take action > it will probably be too late. I even suspect that if humanity is this > greedy and stupid then maybe it is all good riddance to bad rubbish. > > LC > > > > > On energy policy Joey did what liberals around the world did with > renewables, kicked the can down the road to 2050 for the glorious day of > netzero. Joey used the Bureau of Land Management via Ex orders to halt > drilling. You don't think Vlad didn't see this and decided not to take > advantage?* Because Joey and Merkel were uncaring fools *doesn't mean > everyone is so ideologically blind. Joey had both the senate and the house > and did jack shit. I don't think even in this era of shortages Joey is > willing in an emergency, to allow drilling because, liberals want to save > the earth, and nuclear war with Putin is surely no existential threat to us > now, is it?? No, of course not! > > https://www.lowellsun.com/2022/07/11/krikorian-president-biden-makes-good-on-his-promises-no-seriously/ > Refute Kerkorian's facts please? > > The bottom line is that unless you get El Schmucko to modify his policies > in a major way, November will not be a good time to be a loyal Democrat. > One glint of light for your team LC, is the cancellation of Roe v Wade, > which will galvanize many women. We'll see. > > On what I'd reco for energy, nobody asked. The sad thing is when the > Liberals renewables are always a day late and a dollar short with actually > installing these in read this, sufficient amounts, all we humans have is > drill, baby, drill. What else are you guys offering besides vaporware? > > By the way, in the UK they do wind farms off the coast of Scotland, and > the Australians are very big into EV's and Tesla roofs and PowerWalls, > hint-hint. Try to get Joey's attention maybe, rather than just defend him? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence Crowell <goldenfield...@gmail.com> > To: Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sat, Jul 16, 2022 6:49 pm > Subject: Re: Do you have a right to travel? Republicans say no. > > > When it comes to crime rising please read: > > > https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/many-americans-are-convinced-crime-is-rising-in-the-u-s-theyre-wrong/ > > As for inflation that was starting to take off 2 years ago. In the fall of > 2020 the surge in prices started. This was because supply chain bottlenecks > had appeared that summer, remember t'Rump was president then, and odd > shortages began to occur. Now, with the Russian invasion of Ukraine the > bottlenecks in fuel and food have worsened. As for energy policy, yeah I > know that to you people anything beside drill baby drill is considered dumb. > > LC > > > On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 5:22:50 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote: > > John, be thankful for answered prayers. Because, the behavior of my team, > conservatives, it will help your team out at the polls in 22 & 24. > Consider, that it will help you Democrats limit damage from your voters. It > will energize, and mobilize your voter base. It will be a thing to decry > against us, right? Thus, for this reason alone, it will be a stop-loss on > voters hating-on Joey, and his inflation, crime rise, energy dumbness, etc, > that will cost votes. Savvy? It will generate reverse-action against Bible > Belt governors, attorneys, politicians. > > I mean, Team Dem, would have given me(had I been da boss) a platter full > of election wins, before this overturn. > > In this way, Young Padawan, Balance has returned to the force, or in Our > case, The Farce. > > Can I hear an amen from the Atheists' Choir?? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> > To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sat, Jul 16, 2022 8:18 am > Subject: Do you have a right to travel? Republicans say no. > > The overturn of Roe v Wade by Trump's stooges on the Supreme Court has > emboldened Republicans (a.k.a. anti-Democrats) to make further restrictions > on the rights of individuals, now they want to restrict the right to travel > too. Peter Breen, a member of the Anti-democratic Party of Missouri, wants > legislation that will enable Missouri police to arrest anybody in the state > that broke state law even if the act was committed in another state in > which that activity was legal; Breen says *“Just because you jump across > a state line doesn’t mean your home state doesn’t have jurisdiction, it’s > not a free abortion card when you drive across the state line.*” > > Anti-democrats have been pushing hard for similar legislation in Texas, > Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Dakota and in virtually every state that has a > legislature controlled by Anti-democrats. It would not surprise me in the > least if in the near future the Supreme Court, which is full of judges > appointed by Anti-democratic presidents, decrees that even though such laws > restrict interstate commerce, which is guaranteed by the Constitution, > those laws are nevertheless 100% constitutional. It sort of reminds me of > the court's Dred Scott decision of 1857 which said it's legal for White > people in slave states to kidnap Black people in free states and drag them > back into a slave state. And that decision put the nation on the road to > the Civil War. > > Despite this extreme anti-libertarian attitude members of the Libertarian > Party have for over a decade made it very clear that they prefer > Anti-democrats more than Democrats, and that's why I no longer feel > comfortable calling myself a libertarian. > > Antiabortion lawmakers want to block patients from crossing state lines > <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/29/abortion-state-lines/?utm_campaign=KHN%3A%20First%20Edition&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=218186538&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8HCQqWLJHhi0H35JkCy6ir9f9Pc_PyerQBQr8ADWhUIld5HwQXxAVEPhZwshZtRCBjBArlEljcVqfT7OT1mCf0VSSBWA&utm_content=218186538&utm_source=hs_email> > > Roe’s gone. 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