The extremely rich, who bribe the pols, JC, see higher taxes as merely, The 
Cost of Doing Business. Higher taxes don't make anything more virtuous. The 
only virtuousness lays with who in fact benefits???? I would say that if 
somebody who makes a miracle medicine (not just a bullshit claim) is better 
than say George S's Tides Foundation which funds for Dem district attorneys 
that view lifelong street criminals to be freed, because they endured hard 
lives as children, and then they end up killing their victims. This looks to be 
the crime rise perception feeder. 
Meaning what? Meaning a policy is only good If and Only If, it really helps? 
Thus, I'd go for measuring results of public policy, yeah, with statistics as a 
starter. 
The wealth of the uber rich matters to me only how their lobbying to 
politicians benefits us or harms us?? My take on this is, globalism=bad, 
crime=bad, no drilling=bad 4 now, no mass solar installations = bad, bad, bad. 
no battery storage =bad.
Your view might be, no national medical service = inhuman!Mine might be =Ok, 
what's a good way of generating wealth to pay for this? 
On Bush Junior, I have heard and maybe this is simply disinformation, that 43 
enabled Bin Laden to escape to Iran (wink wink) and deliberately looked the 
other way to please his families Saudi friends. IF TRUE, and I don't know if it 
is, then the dude is criminal, and it only proves the vileness of allowing 
ourselves to be ruled by the rich. Meaning I am kind of a wannabe 
bourgeoise-power guy.  Ok well, that going to go nowhere, but, just saying. 
On women's autonomy over their bodies? I believe especially for attractive 
women, that neither the women themselves, nor, any politician from anywhere 
should have autonomy over their bodies. I think that I should have autonomy 
over their bodies. Yes, that's it! They, for some reason, disagree.
On abortion,  I believe based on research biologists using sheep, that we are 
at the point where fetal transfer into incubation boxes, aka artificial wombs, 
aka a womb with a view, are at hand, So instead of abortions we do that, and 
yes, pay for it, as a social workaround. $$$.
https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/artificial-wombs-how-sci-fi-could-one-day-meet-the-nicu

https://www.iflscience.com/this-artificial-womb-and-ai-nanny-is-the-future-of-child-development-claim-chinese-scientists-62437

https://www.wionews.com/science/synthetic-wombs-elon-musk-other-tech-entrepreneurs-discuss-population-collapse-solutions-446496

Yes to rapidly funding and prototyping. 


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>
To: spudboy...@aol.com
Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2022 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: Do you have a right to travel? Republicans say no.

On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 5:10 PM <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:


> The last question first (3) I am a conservative in the sense of being a 
> nationalist because it seems to work better than the globalism, and the rule 
> of corporations which bribe politicians with campaign donations.

And apparently you believe the best way to reduce the amount of bribery the 
super ultra mega rich heads of corporations engage in is to oppose any attempt 
by the Democrats to increase the taxes on those very same super ultra mega rich 
corporate heads. That does not compute.
 
>  me no trust da billionaires,

So you want to protect those billionaires that you don't trust from the 
Democrats who want to tax them more so they  become only ultra mega rich and 
not super ultra mega rich. Explain that to me because I don't quite follow your 
logic. 
 
 > Buchanan once wanted Bush the Elder not to do Desert Storm because, "Iraq is 
 > just like North Korea!"

It turned out the Elder Bush was right about the Kuwait War but his son was 
wrong about the Iraq War, dead wrong.  


> Yes, I am opposed to the Holy Rollers restricting travel for any reason.  

I'm glad to hear it, now I must ask if you think people should have autonomy 
over their own bodies or should politicians in Washington have the final say 
about that? 
John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
qps




 I hope you're right but I don't think you are. 2024 is too far in the future 
to make political predictions that are worth a damn, but I think the Democrats 
are gonna lose control of both the House and the Senate in the midterm election 
this year, the Antidemocrats are going to triumph. Unemployment is the lowest 
it's been in years and the dollar is the strongest it's been in a generation, 
but gas prices are high and even though neither the president nor the Congress 
has much influence over that they are the ones in power so they are the ones 
who are going to get blamed.
And to many people, and to all Republicans, knocking a dollar off the price of 
a gallon of gas is more important than the US Constitution, and more important 
than the right to travel and the right to have autonomy over your own body, in 
particular the right to control your own womb if you have one, and more 
important than the right to put any chemical you wish into your body to relieve 
chronic excruciating unrelenting white hot pain if you are dying. And 
Republicans believe low gas prices are more important than the most important 
right of all, the right to die if you wish to die.
I have to admit Biden is not totally blameless for the current high rate of 
inflation, on the very first day of his presidency he should've eliminated by 
Executive Order all the Trump era tariffs, which are paid for by Americans not 
by foreign countries, but for some reason that makes no economic sense some of 
them are still in place.
   

> It will generate reverse-action against Bible Belt governors, attorneys, 
> politicians. 

If only it were that simple and that logical! Roy Moore, a Bible thumping judge 
in Alabama, the heart of the Bible Belt, came within a hair's breadth of 
becoming a US Senator even though convincing evidence was available that he was 
a pedophile. This happened for two reasons: 
1) On the ballot he had a "R" next to his name not a "D".2) He may have been a 
pedophile but he was a Bible thumping pedophile, and that makes all the 
difference. 

I will close by asking you 3 questions. 
1) Mr. Spudboy, do you think you should have the right to travel? 
2) Being "conservative" means you wanna keep on doing things the way they've 
always been done, so I understand why conservatives oppose the Democrats when 
they try to increase taxes on the super ultra mega rich and why conservatives 
want to keep them very low as they've always been, but what is "conservative" 
about radically changing the way we've handled abortions for the last half 
century? 
3) What exactly are conservatives trying to conserve? 


ngc
h

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