On Saturday, November 9, 2024 at 4:39:37 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:

On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 9:40 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:


*>>> Why do you characterize the explanation of the possible insufficiency 
of our concept of space, a NON-local hidden variable?*


*>> Because if an event occurred 4 light years away and happened LESS than 
4 years ago and yet it still affected you then that affect was non-local, 
because that's what "non-local" means. Is such an affect possible, does 
Quantum Mechanics permit it? Nobody knows, but if I were betting I would 
bet not.*


*> Your first sentence requires IMO, more precision. Please re-write it.*


*No.*


You seem to be saying that non-local means one feels the effect of an event 
before it occurred. That's how it reads. AG 

 

>Are you referring to faster-than-SoL phenomenom? 


Obviously.  

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*> Two observers can't send information to each other because neither knows 
what will come up in a coin flip if the outcome is modeled quantum 
mechanically, that is irreducibly random , but each element of a pair of 
entangled particles can send information to its partner** [faster than 
light] *


*Maybe. If somebody can prove that is true then we will know that Quantum 
Mechanics is non-local, and the violation of Bell's Inequality does not 
rule out non-local hidden variables, it only rules out local hidden 
variables.  *


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