Magic will happen! We will simulate electricity and we will get free energy!

On Sunday, 9 March 2025 at 14:02:22 UTC+2 John Clark wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 12:51 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> *>>>> Recent events have proven that computer scientists have figured out 
>> the relationship between mind and matter well enough to be able to turn 
>> inert matter into a mind. Meanwhile Hindu gurus and Yoga adepts are doing 
>> the exact same thing they've been doing for thousands of years, 
>> contemplating their navels and making zero progress on understanding how 
>> the world works. *
>>
>>
>> *>>> Contemplating one's navel is hugely harder to do than you think.*
>>
>>
>> *>>Playing the piano with your feet, even if it's only done very 
>> poorly, is also extremely difficult, however like navel gazing it will not 
>> help you one bit in understanding how the world works.  *
>>
>>
>> *> How would you know without trying to navel gaze**,*
>>
>
> *Everybody engages in woolgathering, a.k.a. navel gazing, from time to 
> time, but the more time you spend on that the less time you can spend on 
> figuring out how the world works. That's why yogis and gurus are preaching 
> exactly the same stuff they were preaching a thousand years ago, they have 
> found nothing new so they have nothing new to say.    *
>
> * > **Since you can't *define [it]
>
>
> *As I have said before, I have something far far better than a definition, 
> I have examples. And for me the most important example of consciousness is 
> me.  *
>
> *> and more important you don't know how it comes to exist, *
>
>
>
> *Thanks to very recent developments I now know of two ways consciousness 
> can come to exist:1) Through random mutation and natural selection, which 
> produces intelligence, which produces consciousness, although that process 
> is very slow. *
>
> *2) Consciousness can also be achieved through the administrations of 
> computer scientists, but unlike Evolution this way is exponentially fast. *
>
> *> you can't assert a black box has it. *
>
>
> *Am I allowed to assert that one of my fellow human beings, yourself for 
> example, is conscious, at least when you're not sleeping or under 
> anesthesia or dead? If your answer is yes then why isn't that the same 
> answer for a black box that behaves the same way? Is it really of 
> fundamental cosmic importance that one of you has a brain that is wet and 
> squishy while the other has a brain that is dry and hard?  *
>  
> *  John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* 
> aia
>

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