Magic will happen! We will simulate electricity and we will get free energy!
On Sunday, 9 March 2025 at 14:02:22 UTC+2 John Clark wrote: > On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 12:51 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > *>>>> Recent events have proven that computer scientists have figured out >> the relationship between mind and matter well enough to be able to turn >> inert matter into a mind. Meanwhile Hindu gurus and Yoga adepts are doing >> the exact same thing they've been doing for thousands of years, >> contemplating their navels and making zero progress on understanding how >> the world works. * >> >> >> *>>> Contemplating one's navel is hugely harder to do than you think.* >> >> >> *>>Playing the piano with your feet, even if it's only done very >> poorly, is also extremely difficult, however like navel gazing it will not >> help you one bit in understanding how the world works. * >> >> >> *> How would you know without trying to navel gaze**,* >> > > *Everybody engages in woolgathering, a.k.a. navel gazing, from time to > time, but the more time you spend on that the less time you can spend on > figuring out how the world works. That's why yogis and gurus are preaching > exactly the same stuff they were preaching a thousand years ago, they have > found nothing new so they have nothing new to say. * > > * > **Since you can't *define [it] > > > *As I have said before, I have something far far better than a definition, > I have examples. And for me the most important example of consciousness is > me. * > > *> and more important you don't know how it comes to exist, * > > > > *Thanks to very recent developments I now know of two ways consciousness > can come to exist:1) Through random mutation and natural selection, which > produces intelligence, which produces consciousness, although that process > is very slow. * > > *2) Consciousness can also be achieved through the administrations of > computer scientists, but unlike Evolution this way is exponentially fast. * > > *> you can't assert a black box has it. * > > > *Am I allowed to assert that one of my fellow human beings, yourself for > example, is conscious, at least when you're not sleeping or under > anesthesia or dead? If your answer is yes then why isn't that the same > answer for a black box that behaves the same way? Is it really of > fundamental cosmic importance that one of you has a brain that is wet and > squishy while the other has a brain that is dry and hard? * > > * John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* > aia > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/f9ef799a-3ff3-4e03-bf32-58c7d1440ffdn%40googlegroups.com.

