On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 9:42 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*>> Thanks to very recent developments I now know of two ways consciousness
> can come to exist:*
> *1) Through random mutation and natural selection, which produces
> intelligence, which produces consciousness, although that process is very
> slow.*
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> *2) Consciousness can also be achieved through the administrations of
> computer scientists, but unlike Evolution this way is exponentially fast. *
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> *> What's been done is to create a computer (HW and SW)*
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*IHA.*


> *> which can mimic human speech and arguments so well, that you can't
> distinguish it from entities you believe are conscious*
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*Yes, but you are also "mimicking" human speech, you mimicked how to do it
by watching and listening to adults when you were a child.*

*> what's called AI, passes the Turing Test. AG*
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*Yep, but I might add that modern AI's can pass the Turing Test with a
considerably higher score than you can, so if they are not conscious then I
would have to conclude that you are not either.  ** I really wish you would
answer a question that I posed in my last post: *

*Is it really of fundamental cosmic importance that one of you has a brain
that is wet and squishy while the other has a brain that is dry and hard?  *

   *John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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