Seen this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957006
From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 07 on VMware Well, specific to VMWare and Microsoft...the certification for Server (OS only) was inked this week. There certainly isn't one for CRM yet. But I would scream very loudly for my TAM to here, if that happened with any of our apps. Most customer-facing folks at Microsoft are understanding that Hyper-V is still basically beta software, when compared to VMWare. But no one else at Microsoft wants to admit that, it seems. --James On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Damian Myles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Larry, Sorry about the digression.. must be a Friday thing :-).. as James said I'd look at your storage requirements primarily.. unless you have explicit HA requirements .... James.. that was a premier agreement also with the customer .. maybe the "good" news hasn't filtered thru.. for me it's just a bit vernacular :-) Cheers, Mylo On 8/23/08, James Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > The answer is, it depends. I would certainly want ESX Enterprise > features (mostly for HA). Mailbox roles of any kind - be careful on > storage requirements. It could get tricky identifying bottlenecks if > you are pushing your storage throughput limits, for example. > > Certainly don't take snapshots of DB or Log disks :) > > --James > > On 8/22/08, TechInfo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Anyone have any info on my original question?? :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > Sent: Aug 22, 2008 4:00 PM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Exchange 07 on VMware > > > > If you have a Premier agreement, then that should change. VMWare is > > now supported as a platform for Windows Server (it wasn't as of last > > week). I would expect those trends to start to reverse somewhat, or > > Microsoft will start to get itself into trouble... > > > > --James > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/22/08, Damian Myles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > wrote: > >> Folks, > >> > >> VMWare.. oh.. what a life :-) > >> > >> Just had a call with Microsoft support today concerning CRM 4.0... > >> whilst you may be scratching your head thinking what bearing this may > >> have on Exchange, the gravitas towards Hyper-V (at least in a support > >> sense) is a tad annoying.. I am an advocate of virtualization > >> particularly in certain spheres.. in Exchange terms that relates to > >> the web tier (CAS / ActiveSync et al) so I was mildly put out with the > >> response I had today ..... VMWare, I recognize, has been historically > >> a "best effort" approach for support from Microsoft.... .. V2P has > >> been a requisite in the past for Microsoft support for VMWare users to > >> demonstrably prove that the problem didn't lie in the virtual layer. > >> Today, we were asked today to move our test platforms to Hyper-V, to > >> prove that the problems did not relate to VMWare... for the most part > >> this is either a cop-out or at least a form of nepotism ... anyone > >> else had similar experiences? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Mylo > >> > >> On 8/22/08, TechInfo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> My bad, you are correct. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Miller Bonnie L. > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > >>> Sent: Aug 22, 2008 1:15 PM > >>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > >>> Subject: RE: Exchange 07 on VMware > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sounds like you have 2950s then, not 2850s? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: TechInfo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > >>> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 1:13 PM > >>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > >>> Subject: RE: Exchange 07 on VMware > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> They are quad core E5430, 32GB RAM. They were purchased as a package > > with > >>> the VMware software, should not be any issue with supporting 64bit. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Larry > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > >>> Sent: Aug 22, 2008 12:25 PM > >>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > >>> Subject: RE: Exchange 07 on VMware > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> What kind of processor does the 2850 have? It needs to have > >>> virtualization > >>> support for installing a 64bit guest on ESX. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: TechInfo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > >>> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:31 AM > >>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > >>> Subject: Exchange 07 on VMware > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Just thought I'd stir up the pot on the Exchange on VMware > > discussion > >>> again. One of my projects for this year is to migrate to Exchange 07 > > from > >>> 03. We currently have about 600 mailboxes residing on a single > > server, > >>> single site. I purchased a Dell 2850 for this earlier this year. I > > also > >>> installed VMWare ESX 3.5 earlier this year with a couple of Dell > > 2850's. > >>> Now I'm thinking about using the server I have for Exchange, making > > it > >>> another VMware server and then installing Exchange 07 on VMware. I'm > > just > >>> looking for your thoughts (wisdom) from those that have been using it > > that > >>> way on how it is working out. Also, that way would it make sense to > > break > >>> out a separate vm for hub transport? We also have a BES server that > > I > >>> could > >>> put on the same vnic to limit that traffic. 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