True - it's not a certification. But they did join, which wasn't public info until this week...but according to the article Steve mentioned, the SVVP program is just as good, from the application standpoint, as Hyper-V.
I'm still surprised that any PSS engineer thought it was a good idea to tell you to "try Hyper-V" as a solution... --James On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Martin Blackstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I don't think VMware has been certified yet. > > It's in the program though which is great news. > > > > *From:* Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Exchange > (Sunbelt) > *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:16 AM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Exchange 07 on VMware > > > > Seen this? > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957006 > > > > > > *From:* James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:00 AM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Exchange 07 on VMware > > > > Well, specific to VMWare and Microsoft...the certification for Server (OS > only) was inked this week. There certainly isn't one for CRM yet. > > But I would scream very loudly for my TAM to here, if that happened with > any of our apps. Most customer-facing folks at Microsoft are understanding > that Hyper-V is still basically beta software, when compared to VMWare. But > no one else at Microsoft wants to admit that, it seems. > > > --James > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Damian Myles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Larry, > > Sorry about the digression.. must be a Friday thing :-).. as James > said I'd look at your storage requirements primarily.. unless you have > explicit HA requirements .... > > James.. that was a premier agreement also with the customer .. maybe > the "good" news hasn't filtered thru.. for me it's just a bit > vernacular :-) > > Cheers, > Mylo > > > > On 8/23/08, James Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The answer is, it depends. I would certainly want ESX Enterprise > > features (mostly for HA). Mailbox roles of any kind - be careful on > > storage requirements. It could get tricky identifying bottlenecks if > > you are pushing your storage throughput limits, for example. > > > > Certainly don't take snapshots of DB or Log disks :) > > > > --James > > > > On 8/22/08, TechInfo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyone have any info on my original question?? :) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Aug 22, 2008 4:00 PM > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > Subject: Re: Exchange 07 on VMware > > > > > > If you have a Premier agreement, then that should change. VMWare is > > > now supported as a platform for Windows Server (it wasn't as of last > > > week). I would expect those trends to start to reverse somewhat, or > > > Microsoft will start to get itself into trouble... > > > > > > --James > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/22/08, Damian Myles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Folks, > > >> > > >> VMWare.. oh.. what a life :-) > > >> > > >> Just had a call with Microsoft support today concerning CRM 4.0... > > >> whilst you may be scratching your head thinking what bearing this may > > >> have on Exchange, the gravitas towards Hyper-V (at least in a support > > >> sense) is a tad annoying.. I am an advocate of virtualization > > >> particularly in certain spheres.. in Exchange terms that relates to > > >> the web tier (CAS / ActiveSync et al) so I was mildly put out with the > > >> response I had today ..... VMWare, I recognize, has been historically > > >> a "best effort" approach for support from Microsoft.... .. V2P has > > >> been a requisite in the past for Microsoft support for VMWare users to > > >> demonstrably prove that the problem didn't lie in the virtual layer. > > >> Today, we were asked today to move our test platforms to Hyper-V, to > > >> prove that the problems did not relate to VMWare... for the most part > > >> this is either a cop-out or at least a form of nepotism ... anyone > > >> else had similar experiences? > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> Mylo > > >> > > >> On 8/22/08, TechInfo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> My bad, you are correct. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> From: Miller Bonnie L. > > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> Sent: Aug 22, 2008 1:15 PM > > >>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > >>> Subject: RE: Exchange 07 on VMware > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Sounds like you have 2950s then, not 2850s? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> From: TechInfo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 1:13 PM > > >>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > >>> Subject: RE: Exchange 07 on VMware > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> They are quad core E5430, 32GB RAM. They were purchased as a package > > > with > > >>> the VMware software, should not be any issue with supporting 64bit. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Larry > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> Sent: Aug 22, 2008 12:25 PM > > >>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > >>> Subject: RE: Exchange 07 on VMware > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> What kind of processor does the 2850 have? It needs to have > > >>> virtualization > > >>> support for installing a 64bit guest on ESX. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> From: TechInfo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:31 AM > > >>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > >>> Subject: Exchange 07 on VMware > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Just thought I'd stir up the pot on the Exchange on VMware > > > discussion > > >>> again. One of my projects for this year is to migrate to Exchange 07 > > > from > > >>> 03. We currently have about 600 mailboxes residing on a single > > > server, > > >>> single site. I purchased a Dell 2850 for this earlier this year. I > > > also > > >>> installed VMWare ESX 3.5 earlier this year with a couple of Dell > > > 2850's. > > >>> Now I'm thinking about using the server I have for Exchange, making > > > it > > >>> another VMware server and then installing Exchange 07 on VMware. I'm > > > just > > >>> looking for your thoughts (wisdom) from those that have been using it > > > that > > >>> way on how it is working out. Also, that way would it make sense to > > > break > > >>> out a separate vm for hub transport? We also have a BES server that > > > I > > >>> could > > >>> put on the same vnic to limit that traffic. 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