-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm going to jump in on this one too. It may be a similar product, but it is NOT even close to being as clean and smooth as 8.2! Argue all you want, but if you want honest straight forward opinions, the fact remains it isn't as clean as it was. You used to be able to open up rpmdrake, I could install, remove, update all in one. Now, if I want to install I open one. If I find that I want to remove something, then I have to close the one and open another.
It is NOt soley because it is different! It isn't as clean, it isn't as inuitive and it is just pure and simple a step backwards. It was an idea that someone thought was a good idea. It is not. Since it seems to have hit a nerve, it must have been your idea. :) They do work hard, and they have some fantastic ideas. We tell them when they do, but don't bash a fellow because someone made a bad decision to split something up and made it less functional. For crying out loud. Step back, take a deep breath and ponder that perhaps, just maybe it wasn't such a good idea after all. On Saturday 12 October 2002 12:21 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: > Piero Piutti wrote: > > I have just joined this mailinglist and I've noticed that one of the > > hottest topics is the "new look" rpmdrake. > > > > My two cents about this topic... > > > > I've been using MDK 8.2 since last June and I was so enthusiast about it > > that I have switched all my daily tasks from Windows to Linux. > > What made MDK 8.2 so special were its distro-specific tools, the best of > > which was no doubt rpmdrake. It was so user-friendly it was almost > > addictive! > > > > So I was looking forward to update to 9.0 and I was expecting it to > > feature all the good things from 8.2 plus enhancements as long as new > > stuff. > > > > As far as I can see the new release is very good (stable as rock, I must > > say - though I have been using it for a few days only), but my "first > > impression" was definitely spoiled when I found out that rpmdrake had > > been sliced into three different pieces! > > > > Now it is very uncomfortable to use (at opposite of its predecessor which > > was 100% user-friendly). > > Honestly, and I'm not attempting to chastise or malign anyone here for > their opinions on this topic, but exactly is it thats so hard to use > when it comes to the new presentation of rpmdrake? all the mods are in > one place; they're easy to get to; they're presented in a clear and easy > to understand manner which allows the user to know exactly what tool is > being used to perform the task. The only thing I can possibly see is > that they're no longer "together" accessible from *one* interface. > > I must conclude then that all this trouble is based solely on the fact > that it's different, as in "not looking the same" thats causing all the > heartache over this. The tools still work the same, they're all still > using the same processes under the covers to get the job done. The added > benefit here is that to do an update, install, uninstall, ( I can't > remember now what the fourth things is) it's no longer necessary to have > "more" stuff running then is actually necessary. > > Let me stress here. The _ONLY_ thing that has changed here *is* the > look. nothing else that the user sees and/or uses has changed. All this > railing on the programmers and decision-makers is groundless and > childish. Notice here I am NOT labeling anyone who disagrees with my > viewpoint as being childish. I only mean to point out that a mountain is > being made out of a molehill. > > Lets remember...this is _FREE_ software that is being released to the > public with no strings attached. Instead of bitching and biting the > hands that feed our appetites for more, newer, and better software we > should be happy and enjoying the diversity in the progression of this > distribution. They're not going to be able to totally please every > Mandrake user each and every time the next level is released. > > We should maybe look for and focus on something that is in "real" need > of improvement. > > I've seen this problem before. I'm a sysadmin/programmer where I work > and every time we make a signifigant change to something it's never a > good one in the eyes of the users as a whole. Plain and simple folks > just don't like change that doesn't happen to make immediate sense to > their way of thinking. However, when they're done bitchin and take the > time to actually make use the new things or the changes they ultimately > begin to see the logic and thought behind the change. > > Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9qIEmbI42Fu70lIwRArWwAJ9MoponfcJ9+dazkhWAXg27JOZUEgCdFgWC xcEZj6P2N7YYMVxHqsLhta0= =zi/Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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