On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 08:13, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 02:02, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 12:43, Jack Coates wrote:
> > > Steffen Barszus wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2003 21:07 schrieb Vincent Danen:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >>Problem is people don't take security seriously, so they don't sign
> > > >>up for the list.  There isn't much we can do to combat that... in the
> > > >>same way, they may skip those messages we put on every single list
> > > >>and then what?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Yep agree. It would be a horror to spam the lists !!!Getting it four 
> > > > times with an interest in security even five times ? No way. I inform 
> > > > me on what i'm interested in. running urpmi update in cron and looking 
> > > > sometimes on mandrakesecure should be enough. Even on servers. 
> > > > 
> > > > Steffen
> > > 
> > > I'm on Bugtraq -- I get the alert once from mandrakesecure, once from 
> > > Mandrake's message to bugtraq, and once from every other Linux 
> > > distributor out there, in addition to the original discovery argument.
> > > 
> > > Mandrake is typically pretty slow about updates compared to RH and 
> > > Gentoo, but hopefully that'll change if/when they hire Vincent some 
> > > minions :-)
> > 
> > Dunno here Jack.  MDK and SuSE are ssh patched.  RH is still 6 versions
> > behind in the last (a while back too) update for anything but 9.  I have
> > noticed that for every 5 or 6 notices I get from RH I get 1 from either
> > SuSE or Mandrake.  Lotta times, it's just bug fixes for things like
> > compiling kernels (think 8.0 and 7.0) So I'm not sure if RH patches
> > faster or has more bugs to fix. *grin*
> > 
> > James
> >  
> 
> Red Hat definitely sucks pretty bad. I've been having to do a lot of
> work with 6.2 and 7.3 lately, building test environments to recreate
> customer-discovered bugs in. Man, I miss urpmi. up2date is just flatout
> broken in 6.2 (way out of support window, tell that to the thousands of
> customers still using it), and on 7.3 I've actually been installing
> Ximian's Red Carpet to get something that can do dependencies worth a
> damn.

If you want to get industrious you could "create" a urpmi for Redhat. 
Perl URPM libraries + urpmi + genhdlist....... *grin*

James



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