Bhairitu, I meant to ask you as you meditate with a longer mantra effortlessly,are you able to let go completely as in TM where the bija can become very faint,unclear, and barely recognizable.Are you able to allow a longer mantra to become very faint,unclear, and barely recognizable also?
>From my preception it seems that a longer mantra would,unlike TM, require a degree of concentration! Namaste, Billy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > kaladevi93 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > > > >> A longer mantra cultures the mind at deeper levels. The short bij > >> mantra bobs up and down. It is not like a rock but more like a > >> basketball being dribbled. But the longer mantra keeps you at a deep > >> level for longer periods of time. Unfortunately on the airplane trip > >> home after TTC where MMY gave out the advanced techniques about 2/3's of > >> those who got advanced techniques couldn't remember what they were > >> given. I had two versions in my mind: the correct one and one shorter > >> but didn't know which was right. I went on for years switching between > >> one and the other with different results. I didn't care much for that > >> uncertainty and even wrote two mantra check letters to MMY but never got > >> anything back. > >> > >> > > > > Rather than making an absolute statement that would clearly appeal to TMers, wouldn't it > > be fairer to say 'in some simple forms of meditation using mental repetition of mantra a > > longer mantra can culture the mind at deeper levels. A short bija mantra can sometimes > > bob up and down.' Otherwise you are ignoring the fact that some yogis will use a bija and > > trace it's component parts to beyond the mind and to the deepest absorptions (something > > never witnessed in TM meditators). Likewise other lay people may just use a long mantra > > in a more discursive fashion (consider 'Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee. > > Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, > > Mother of God..etc.' as an English example or Om Mani Padme Hum superstitiously > > repeated by thousands of TIbetans). > > > > Your statement is not absolutely true, only conditionally true. > It still conveys the concept. I'm not going to waste a lot of time > exactly crafting my statements. Who has time for that? >
