So then, what's the difference? the transcendence is the transcendent, right?  
If it had a sign in it that said, "I'm a better transcendent than the one you 
get with iddy-biddy mantras" then that wouldn't be the transcendent, would it? a

Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                               biosoundbill 
wrote:
 > Bhairitu,
 >
 > I meant to ask you as you meditate with a longer mantra 
 > effortlessly,are you able to let go completely as in TM where the 
 > bija can become very faint,unclear, and barely recognizable.Are you 
 > able to allow a longer mantra to become very faint,unclear, and 
 > barely recognizable also?
 >
 > >From my preception it seems that a longer mantra would,unlike TM, 
 > require a degree of concentration!
 >
 > Namaste,
 >
 > Billy
 Yes the longer mantra will refine to a very faint idea.  After a while 
 the mantra will also just go on it's own so no concentration required.
 
 
     
                               

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