--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <My gut feeling is that if you describe MMY's behavior in detail 
to a
> number of psychologist and psychiatrists, they will guess that he 
had
> a personality disorder.>
> 
> So you don't think they would just join him in his self perception 
as
> being the most important human being in history?  What if they 
heard
> Bevan telling them that he really really was, many many many many 
many
> many many times?  How about then?  Still no?  This is going to be
> harder than I thought...
> 
> This is the most troubling aspect of the cute little holy man 
picture
> of Maharishi, his extreme version of grandiosity.  And it is also
> where the devotion of his followers cross over into a darker place 
of
> enabling a person with a real psychological problem. A person who
> might have needed help instead of a steady stream of ass kissing.
> 
> Unless of course you want to give his own self perception another
> shot?  You know, the perspective where EVERY other meditation 
teacher
> and spiritual leader was his inferior. Where he was uniqually 
saddled
> with the responsibility to spiritually regenerate all of mankind
> alone, and only he among ALL the spiritual representatives of the
> Vedic tradition in India knew the SPECIAL SECRETS.  
> 
> The ONLY authentic spiritual teacher, or at least the best of them
> ALL. The TOPPERMOST of the POPPERMOST, a wonder unto himself AMEN 
and
> Hallelujah!  Words cannot express how great and important he was, 
yet
> his minions try...
> 
> And people wonder why I need the DSM-IV?  It is to keep me somewhat
> sympathetic to his condition instead of ... being less sympathetic,
> let's just leave it at. 
> 
why are you so interested and caught up in Maharishi's ego? its all 
ego, ego, ego, to you. the central core of what he was and what he 
did you always relate in terms of what he must have thought about 
himself and what others thought about him. 

i see him essentially as a fungus or a hummingbird or a galaxy. 
playing his part in the universe just like anyone else. just as you 
are a musician, created out of both your impulses and abilities, and 
the way your environment responds to you, (i.e. you wouldn't be a 
musician for very long if your environment told you you weren't any 
good), same with Maharishi. if there hadn't been any universal need 
for him, no one would have heard another word from him, and that 
would be that. 

ah, but you say it is all contrivance and buying into a lie, and 
manipulation. and i respond that some might say the same thing about 
music, that it has no intrinsic value and is unecessary, and those 
that enjoy it are brainwashed into enjoying a false, wholly 
consensual reality, that there is no there, there, and that the only 
reason you do it is to be falsely gratified by those who buy into 
the artifice of music. even to make money from it is a con- you play 
soemthing ephemeral in time and space and after people have paid 
their money, they walk away with nothing, except a pleasant memory, 
and you walk the other way with their money. 

i personally enjoy both music, and what Maharishi brought, and think 
that what he did and said were just as un self conscious and well 
meaning and universal as what any of us do and say. he was a 
creation of his environment just like anyone else, and how much you 
value his existence is a personal thing. buy into it, or not-- 
doesn't matter. 

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