--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" 
> <richardhughes103@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> 
wrote:
> 
> Has had published, in major physics journals. (This
> was pre-MUM, but Lawson's point is that he was already
> doing professional-level work in this area.)


Yes I know what JH was doing befor he got involved in TM, he was not 
only writing theoretical papers on string theory but was working at 
CERN laboratory in switzerland. I only hope he's happier duping the 
TB's on astrology than working at the actual cutting edge of physics 
because they are switching on their new particle accelerator soon. 
Possibly some real big discoveries on the way, Who wouldn't want to 
be involved in that? 


 
> > Or if you think that isn't the case you'd 
> > better ask why not. Isn't it good enough?
> 
> You have to be kidding. You can't give an advanced
> physics lecture to people who aren't well schooled
> in physics.

No, I'm not kidding but I meant it the other way round, if his stuff 
done at MUM is really "finishing Einstiens work" why isn't he 
presenting it to his old pals at CERN, he would get a nobel prize in 
seconds.


> > I heard that Lawrence Domash said to MMY about no-one knowing if 
> > consciousness was the UF and MMY said "WE are the leaders of this 
> > field" How far would any of them have got in the TMO if they'd 
put 
> > their foot down and said let's stick to the facts?
> 
> What are you supposed to do if you have a new
> fact nobody else knows about yet? Discard it?


First you establish if it is indeed a new fact (and not wishful 
thinking due to having to fit in with your gurus teachings).

Then you check against current theories to see if it is compatible 
with the latest ideas. If it isn't you have to prove that the other 
theories are wrong. I wish JH luck in that as his ideas haven't given 
anyone much trouble so far.


> <snip>
> > Do you honestly think the rest of the scientific world are
> > trailing in his wake? He comes over as a nice guy but he has 
> > clearly abandoned science, he wouldn't even hand over his data
> > on the washington study on the ME. No wonder he got the Ignoble
> > prize.
> 
> Er, the data for the D.C. study were from public
> records. You weren't aware of that?
>

How the data was manipulated is what people are interested in, JH 
refused to hand over his work, which is just one of the reasons no-
one took it seriously and he ended up with the Ignobel rather than 
the real thing.

FWIW I would be overjoyed if it does turn out that JH is right and my 
meditating has had a positive effect on the world but I won't lose 
sleep if, as I suspect, it doesn't.

Why can't people just be happy doing it rather than telling everyone 
it lowers crime rates, brought down the berlin wall, controls the 
weather, is responsible for the "massive upsurge in positivity in the 
world" etc etc. Can't we just get on with enjoying it rather than 
having to think we know everything and are the only people that are 
going to save the world. It's megalomania.



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