--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: URGENT MESSAGE FROM RAJA HAGELIN To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 7:01 PM
On Oct 13, 2008, at 6:47 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Oct 13, 2008, at 6:26 PM, Peter wrote: You know when a science is no longer a science and just dogma? When there is no way to disprove the theory which is the higher- order explanation for the empirical evidence. Let's see, our self- chosen criteria for quantifying the ME go up. Well, we're responsible for that. These self-same criteria go down, well, we're responsible for that too, but now we have a brand new ad hoc explanation as to why they go down: phase transition. Notice the a priori assumption that the ME is an absolute given and the ad hoc explanation is to rationalize the contradictory evidence away. I'd love to ask John, "You state that the ME is a scientific theory which means it is open to nullification. So, John, what empirical findings would nullify the ME?" Very well said. it is quite interesting that the Maharishi used to say "through the - window- of science, we see the dawn of the age of enlightenment". He didn't say, "...through science, we see...". What was disturbing to me, in years of conversation with Mahesh's old secretaries, (esp. one who helped put together what was to become known as "SCI"), was how M. said he would use science to forward his mission. Use science. But he clearly was not interested in finding the truth about TM, TMSP, etc. He was instead interested in creating a pseudoscience which could be used as a front for selling his various services and appealing to western geeks, the buyers. You're new here so you may not even be aware, much of this has been discussed previously here in some detail. "Vedic Science" is well known among Hindu scientists as a form pseudoscience and Hindu fundamentalism. In India, in considerable contradistinction to our western views, it is considered an extreme right-wing and fundamentalist trend (here it seems very left wing). We see remarkably similar parallels in the phenomenon known as "Creation Science" in fundamentalist Christianity. Creation science is dogma that uses pseudo-scientific sounding clap-trap to validate itself. Absurd.