--- On Mon, 10/13/08, enlightened_dawn11 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: enlightened_dawn11 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: URGENT MESSAGE FROM RAJA HAGELIN
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 10:59 PM
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/13/08, enlightened_dawn11
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > From: enlightened_dawn11
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: URGENT MESSAGE FROM
> RAJA HAGELIN
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 6:47 PM
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
> > > <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Oct 13, 2008, at 6:26 PM, Peter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You know when a science is no longer a
> science
> > > and just dogma?
> > > When
> > > > > there is no way to disprove the theory
> which is
> > > the higher-
> > > order
> > > > > explanation for the empirical evidence.
> Let's
> > > see, our self-
> > > chosen
> > > > > criteria for quantifying the ME go up.
> Well,
> > > we're responsible
> > > for
> > > > > that. These self-same criteria go down,
> well,
> > > we're responsible
> > > for
> > > > > that too, but now we have a brand new
> ad hoc
> > > explanation as to
> > > why
> > > > > they go down: phase transition. Notice
> the a
> > > priori assumption
> > > that
> > > > > the ME is an absolute given and the ad
> hoc
> > > explanation is to
> > > > > rationalize the contradictory evidence
> away.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd love to ask John, "You
> state that
> > > the ME is a scientific
> > > theory
> > > > > which means it is open to
> nullification. So,
> > > John, what
> > > empirical
> > > > > findings would nullify the ME?"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very well said.
> > > >
> > > it is quite interesting that the Maharishi used
> to say
> > > "through the -
> > > window- of science, we see the dawn of the age of
> > > enlightenment". He
> > > didn't say, "...through science, we
> see...".
> >
> > The point here is that the TMO keeps on claiming a
> scientifically
> provable effect called the ME. All real science claims can
> be
> nullified if evidence does not support the hypothesis. The
> problem
> with the ME is that absolutely nothing can occur that would
> nullify
> it!This is not science. Stop calling it science. Its dogma,
> which is
> fine, but stop pretending its science.
> > >
>
> I am not calling the ME science, whatever the TM Org may
> call it.
> The ME as I see it is an instrument of faith; a calculation
> based on
> the perception of the heart.
That's fine, but the TMO is consistently claiming it is the most empirically
researched scientific discovery in the history of science and that is just
total bullshit.
>
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