--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , Peter <drpetersutphen@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > You know when a science is no longer a science and just dogma? > When > > > there is no way to disprove the theory which is the higher-order > > > explanation for the empirical evidence. Let's see, our self-chosen > > > criteria for quantifying the ME go up. Well, we're responsible > for that. > > > These self-same criteria go down, well, we're responsible for > that too, > > > but now we have a brand new ad hoc explanation as to why they go > down: > > > phase transition. Notice the a priori assumption that the ME is an > > > absolute given and the ad hoc explanation is to rationalize the > > > contradictory evidence away. > > > > > > > > I'd love to ask John, "You state that the ME is a scientific > theory > > > which means it is open to nullification. So, John, what empirical > > > findings would nullify the ME?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very simple. Have 1,000 sidhas sit on one room and do flying at a > > > certain time. Have a bunch of non-meditators sit in another room > and > > > unaware of the first. Measure the second groups' brainwave > changes and > > > other responses. If nothing happens you'll know. Done deal. > > > > > > Travis had something similar to this published in the > Interntaional > > > Journal of Neuroscience.... twice !...and you are an anti-science > freak > > > because you want to throw this and other science out the window. > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > > Problem is, there's a ceiling effect on alpha coherence during TM, > at least > > as measured in the general EEG experiments. Travis stopped doing > those > > experiments years ago, I believe, or you would have seen larger, > more carefully > > conducted ones published. > > > > Lawson > > > But why would he stop doing the experiments, if there is anything > to it at all it's the most amazing breakthrough in scientific > undertsnding ever! I'm serious. The only abstract I could find > in the Journal of Neuroscience claims to have found evidence of > a field effect, if true it's massive.
Because the ceiling effect made the resutls unpredictable/not-replicable? > > I suspect faulty controls and would like to see it replicated a few > hundred times by independents. But even if it turns out to be true > what does it mean for the stock market? Does increased coherence > make you more moral and less likely to gamble away peoples savings? > I think that one thing FFL has proved is that you don't get any > kind of consensus on anything between people who have been doing TM > for years, so what can you predict for society if we were all > doing it? > Shrug. There's suggestive evidence that extreme alpha coherence in the brain might be due to quantum interaction effects. Vaj's favorite Buddhist meditation research is touted by Quantum Mind fans like Hamerhoff as evidence of the 40Mhz EEG coherence due to QM effects in the brain that Hamerhoff has been making for many years. Whatever. Lawson
