TurquoiseB  wrote: [snip] That the
> form of meditation being proposed is TM I think is
> problematic because I honestly believe that the way
> it's taught and explained in followup talks is 
> religously-based and thus inappropriate for American
> schools given the Constitution and the clear wishes
> of America's founding fathers. But the courts will
> decide that.

Turq,

Didn't you sorta choke while writing that last statement?

I mean:  you, someone who's posted a thousand reasons not to trust anyone's 
OPINION without there being logic and science behind it (at the least,) are 
bending your knee to the OPINIONS of the founding fathers.  WTF? -- you an 
expat saying this? 

If the wisdom of the founding fathers is your guide, then, you're for slavery, 
no voting rights for women, and, oh, I almost forgot, genocide as a tool for 
getting all the land from the natives.

Those founding fathers were not magic.  They came up with a document that could 
be augmented, but they didn't come up with anything that guarantees that the 
finer qualities of humanity would emerge from the people.  They did as good as 
they could, but by today's moral standards, they were elitist barbarians who 
believed so much nonsense that they'd shock even Rush Limbaugh with the depth 
of their disconnects.

And they didn't forbid religion in government -- they made their form of 
government into a religion that was backed up by guns.  A religion with all the 
trappings of entitlement, symbolic clothing (clean,) elitist powers, and even 
the right to kill anyone for almost any reason if merely 12 dunderheads can be 
made into a lynch mob in a courtroom.

The Constitution is the basis of a religion that allows ANYTHING if money can 
be made from it and some of that money is given to the politicians (priests.)  

I like Mel Gibson's line from The Patriot.  His character was being prompted to 
join the Revolutionary War because everyone had HAD IT with King George, the 
tyrant. He said: "Better to have one tyrant 3,000 miles away than 3,000 tyrants 
one mile away."  That's what his character thought about the neighborliness of 
those founding fathers-to-be.  

Any representational form of government can be easily controlled by money.  The 
words of the Constitution are nothing to the BigWads....merely something to 
augment if money can be made.  

Edg



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