On May 6, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Richard M wrote:

And you base your point on one esoteric saying translated from
centuries ago across probably multiple languages?

I am not defending the opposite, but you seem to hardly made a case
for your view.

Don't assume I was interested in going into any lengthy defense. It's
worthless to do such a thing here any longer.

  Really this is a kind of "yoga 101" revelation, it should hardly be
surprising. Not to sound offensive but if you're that ignorant of
basic yogic teachings, I'd recommend cracking a book or two first. I
base my observations on my own direct experience and being taught by
a lineal teacher who was part of a line that had been replicating the
same results for centuries. The Patanjali tradition.


Fair enough.

But you said some-such to someone (SpareEgg I think) as "You're
position is wrong because you believe/do 'P' and
"*THE YOGA TRADITION"* says/do 'Q'.

Which sounds ever-so authoritative.

If you had said "Q is better based on my experience and
according to my teacher and his/her tradition", you would not have
rattled my chains.

But then you would not have made much of a point either.


Well I think the crux of the argument here would be that TM is claiming to be from this tradition, yet time after time it comes up against that tradition in terms of errors, typically on things that were simply never told to us. This actually clarifies a lot of the deadends people will run into, so it is something worthwhile, not mere specious intellectualizing. Now some will claim that MMY "restored the tradition" to some original, better working state. The fact is, the Patanjali/yogic tradition(s) continues to be passed down and replicated like it always has been. There's was never any thing that needed to be restored or fixed. It "works" just fine. But it is interesting to see where the departures are and the issues they give rise to.

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