--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M" <compost...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On May 6, 2009, at 1:27 AM, sparaig wrote:
> > 
> > >>> As I said, we agree to disagree...
> > >>>
> > >>> Or, to quote a famous anonymous sage: there are as many 
> legitimate i
> > >>> interpretations of the Veda as there are enlightened persons.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately this is one area where the sages of the yoga-darshana
> > >> (not "the Veda") are in agreement. Generally the type of people who
> > >> subvert the angas are what would in western languages be referred 
> to
> > >> as "black magicians" or in theosophical lingo "black brothers": 
> give
> > >> me the magic, let me circumvent the virtues, they will come on 
> their
> > >> own, just give me power, NOW.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > Is that how you see the TM-Sidhis program?
> > 
> > 
> > That is how the yogic tradition perceives the intent of those 
> > who try  to skip the angas.
> >
> 
> So you're the spokesperson for "the yogic tradition"? 
> 
> Self-certified?
> 
> These skippable angas seem jolly arcane for such a well studied
> tradition as Yoga.
> 
> You need to put Wikepedia right Vaj, eh?
> 
> "The earliest reference to Angas (???) occurs in the Atharava Veda 
> (V.22.14) where they find mention along with the Magadhas, Gandharis 
> and the Mujavatas, all apparently as a despised people.
> 
> The Jain Prajnapana ranks the Angas and the Vangas in the first group 
> of Aryan peoples.
> 
> According to Buddhist texts like the Anguttara Nikaya, Anga was one of 
> the sixteen great nations (solas Mahajanapadas) which had flourished in 
> central and north-west India in the 6th century BC.
> 
> Anga also finds mention in the Jain Bhagvati-Sutra's list of ancient 
> Janapadas."
> 
> What's the instruction for "skipping" them?

I think Vaj meant the 'angas' in Patanjali's Ashtanga (8 limbs)Yoga, "With the 
practice of ALL of these limbs, **or means**, simultaneously, the state of Yoga 
grows simultaneously in all the eight spheres of life, eventually to become 
permanent."  MMY Gita appendix under Yoga!

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