--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote: > > > On May 6, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Richard M wrote: > > >> I think Vaj meant the 'angas' in Patanjali's Ashtanga (8 limbs) > >> Yoga, "With the practice of ALL of these limbs, **or means**, > >> simultaneously, the state of Yoga grows simultaneously in all the > >> eight spheres of life, eventually to become permanent." MMY Gita > >> appendix under Yoga! > >> > > > > Well - may well be so. But my point is that to assert with great > > authority that "The Yogic Tradition" asserts such and such of these > > thingies is a con (i.e. a claim to some privileged *insight* > > into the tradition). After all, if these angas are too arcane a > > subject for Wikipedia, it is hardly sensible to imply that there > > can be no ambiguity of interpretation hanging over them. > > > > In other words it is an instance, to go by flavour of the day, of a > > "thought stopper". > > > > What, when you think about, IS "The Yoga Tradition" (singular)? > > > Just to be clearer for you Rich, these angas exist in BOTH Hindu and > Buddhist traditions of samadhi, and while the number of angas does > vary, the insistence of their sequential performance in all Hindu > yogic literature is quite notable, so much so that the "mechanics" of > it has been delineated. And thus the yogic saying 'Those who skip the > prerequisites of samadhi (i.e. the angas), even if they meditate for > hundreds of years, will never attain samadhi.' >
And you base your point on one esoteric saying translated from centuries ago across probably multiple languages? I am not defending the opposite, but you seem to hardly made a case for your view.