--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On May 6, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Richard M wrote:
> 
> >> I think Vaj meant the 'angas' in Patanjali's Ashtanga (8 limbs) 
> >> Yoga, "With the practice of ALL of these limbs, **or means**,  
> >> simultaneously, the state of Yoga grows simultaneously in all the  
> >> eight spheres of life, eventually to become permanent."  MMY Gita  
> >> appendix under Yoga!
> >>
> >
> > Well - may well be so. But my point is that to assert with great
> > authority that "The Yogic Tradition" asserts such and such of these
> > thingies is a con (i.e. a claim to some privileged *insight*
> > into the tradition). After all, if these angas are too arcane a
> > subject for Wikipedia, it is hardly sensible to imply that there
> > can be no ambiguity of interpretation hanging over them.
> >
> > In other words it is an instance, to go by flavour of the day, of a  
> > "thought stopper".
> >
> > What, when you think about, IS "The Yoga Tradition" (singular)?
> 
> 
> Just to be clearer for you Rich, these angas exist in BOTH Hindu and  
> Buddhist traditions of samadhi, and while the number of angas does  
> vary, the insistence of their sequential performance in all Hindu  
> yogic literature is quite notable, so much so that the "mechanics" of  
> it has been delineated. And thus the yogic saying 'Those who skip the  
> prerequisites of samadhi (i.e. the angas), even if they meditate for  
> hundreds of years, will never attain samadhi.'
>

And you base your point on one esoteric saying translated from centuries ago 
across probably multiple languages?

I am not defending the opposite, but you seem to hardly made a case for your 
view.

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