--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony...@...> wrote:

> Yup, bring it on.  Down to brass knuckles, & youd can't just sit this one out 
> Janosmelocco,and not at least carry some water. Not just let a bunch of 
> average middleclass dogmatic jerks get away with this knowledge. Bunch of 
> damn dogmatic losers. I'm with you, it's spiritual war. And near the end time.


Traced to a cave on the Pakistan/Afghan border.  


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> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "janosmelocco" <janosmelocco@> wrote:
> >
> > To all who are commenting here,
> > 
> > I am not surprised to see that there are different levels in these 
> > comments. As for me, I am learning from a state of being that is not so 
> > concerned with criticism. Yet I understand the frustration of some of you 
> > with some of the teachings or claims of MMY or the policies of the TMO.
> > 
> >brevity snip<
> > When I got to see more of the actual TMO in the West (then in my native 
> > country), I realized that there is some sort of fight within these ranks - 
> > not just the usual ego-stuff one finds with all seekers and disciples, but 
> > some sort of a spiritual war.
> > 
> >snip<
> > 
> > It does not explain my experiences with the Divine, or astrology, but I 
> > believe there is a grain of truth in it. In the language of that author, I 
> > perceived a Theocratic strain in the TMO fighting for control, and judging 
> > by my experiences with TM, the original source MMY mediated to the world 
> > did have the liberation of mankind by spiritual means. However, I just felt 
> > differently around some people - those who had been established in deep 
> > meditation. Some others sounded to me more like average Western middle 
> > class people chasing some sort of a guru rainbow. Forgive me to be blunt.
> >
> >large snip< 
> > Mantras are probably similar. Naturally, the whole truth is not going to be 
> > revealed for a mere few thousands of dollars. Yet I have seen people 
> > realize extreme great states of enlightenment and things talked about in 
> > the most advanced mystical texts with MMY's techniques. I have seen some 
> > dogmatic people also - and I think any type of dogmatism hinders true 
> > spiritual progress.
> > 
> < >
> > 
> > Back to practice and solving my questions. Nowadays I have the luck of such 
> > quick feedback that if anything goes wrong I notice within a day. And TM 
> > came into my life just like jyotish did - as a revelation. It deserves to 
> > go to a higher level.
> > 
> > If anything, I want to advance further and not just sit back and criticize 
> > the Maharishi or shed light on the obvious differences of inner teachings 
> > and external policies. Others have done that enough  - and they are 
> > probably right in many ways. (I may sound like a simpleton here.)
> >
> 
> 
> Yup, bring it on.  Down to brass knuckles, & youd can't just sit this one out 
> Janosmelocco,and not at least carry some water. Not just let a bunch of 
> average middleclass dogmatic jerks get away with this knowledge. Bunch of 
> damn dogmatic losers. I'm with you, it's spiritual war. And near the end time.
> 
> Jai Adi Shankara,
> -Buck
>


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