I was a little rushed in my initial reply, and did not intend to bring in reincarnation as a forgone conclusion. But, I must say that in my system of belief, I cannot make sense of the idea of karma without reincarnation. A few other comments below
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote: > "Intervention" would obviate and invalidate the whole > idea of karma, which IMO is that *you* are supposed to > learn from the results of your own actions. You steal. > Something happens to your state of attention as a > result; it sinks "lower." You steal again, it happens > again. Sooner or later you figure this out and stop > stealing. There is no "intervention" involved with > this, merely individual responsibility. I don't really see this. Seems to me it can take a good long time for us to learn certain lessons, and usually our body gives out before we do. I view this as a pretty practical matter. It seems obvious to me that a lot of good actions go unrewarded, and a lot of bad actions go unpunished in the span of one lifetime. The only way I can make sense of this is through this idea of reincarnation. > > I think people get all fucked up by associating the > very simple, clear concept of karma with the very > murky, unclear concept of reincarnation. I am talk- > ing about karma in its sense as simple actions and > the results of those action. I said, nor implied, > anything about reincarnation in my previous posts. Fine, of course. But aside from all this theoretical stuff. Do you believe in reincarantion? What's all this "surfing the bardo" all about, if I have the correct term. I don't quite see the case you are making about how karmic accounts get settled in the span of one lifetime, and would like to know, as a practical matter if you really do as well. Fine to say, "could be this", or "could be that", but what do you believe.
