Is there any sound which isn't 'made up'?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardatrwilliamsdotus" <richard@...>
wrote:
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> > The truth is that most Buddhist mantras have origins in the
> > > > purana/tantra practice of India which is Hindu/Jain
> > > > in composition...
> > > >
> > > Most mantras from the vajrayana paths were revealed - or
> > > re-revealed if you prefer...
> > >
> emptybill:
> > Alex Sanderson shows in his analysis of Heruka-Abhi-Dhana-Tantra
> > the Buddhist borrowing from Hindu Shaiva Agamas and other
> > relevant texts...
> >
> At some point, we all are going to have to face the historical
> facts: the bija mantras used in both Tantric Buddhism and in
> Hindu Yoga are made-up sounds that are found in any common
> household, heard around the house every day, or from the sounds
> found in nature. Bija mantras are NOT revealed or cognized or
> 'seen' by the monad or by some mythical 'rishi'.
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> All mantric practices stem from the ancient shamanistic practice
> of Oddiyana, that is Buddhists of Trans-Himalya, hence to India.
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> The Mantrayna was adopted, with modifications, by the Shiva and
> Vaishanava sects as Hindu tantricism following the Gupta Age.
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> For example, the bija mantra 'phat' is called the astra 'weapon'
> bija used as an aggressive mantra from the earliest times. The
> sound of phat, to the Indian ear, conveys the sensation of
> explosion.
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> According to Bharati, in Hindi, 'phat' is a very common
> colloquial household term for 'burst, explode', in both
> intransitive and transitive use, as in a two wheeled, two-stroke,
> motorized rickshaw, thus a 'phata phata', heard all over Delhi!
>
> "From this, a causative verb pharna is formed. The motor-cycle
> rickshaw in Delhi is called 'phat phata' by its drivers; phatki
> is a fire-cracker. Once a syllable like this has been accepted
> into esoteric usage, analogous syllables will readily follow..."
> (116).
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> Works cited:
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> Sanskrit Lexicon:
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> Phat!: (pronounced 'fot') phoneme; Buddhist Hybrid-Sanskrit;
> causative verb? 1. Crack! 2. Snap! 3. Pop! 4. Meaningless
> sound. 5. Gibberish. 6. Bija mantra - sometimes referred to
> as the weapon mantra also, in that, it destroys obstacles.
> http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/
>
> 'The Tantric Tradition'
> by Swami Ageananda Bharati
> Rider, 1965
>
> Subject: Its Not What You Think!
> Thread: Phat! A magic word for protection?
> Author: Willytex
> Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental,
> alt.yoga, alt.meditation
> Updated: August 26, 2003
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