"I have been just throwing a few ideas out here, I have mostly not wanted to get into the current discussions, but as the current ongoings have been so weird, I thought I would throw something into the ring."
Awesome Xeno - Your ideas would have been excellent for our hysteria, paranoia day which unfortunately was yesterday. You can re-post this Nov 11, 2013. Yeah - there was lot of confusion regarding our first ever hysteria, paranoia day yesterday, the organizers messed up and genuinely paranoid persons like yourself were not properly informed, so please accept my apologies on behalf of Share and the Howells. On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius < anartax...@yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" > <lurkernomore20002000@> wrote: > >> > >> Oh wow. I've got to come out of lurking to tell you that you are one > awewsome lady, Share. You utterly defeat your detractors and they have no > idea that they have been defeated, or at least put in their place, as they > are so busy trying to demean you. > > > > Now you've done it, 7ray. Haven't you learned by now that praising the > DVotW (Designated Victim of the Week) is a sure-fire way to become the next > DVotW yourself? :-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > > > dear Ravi, Thank you SO MUCH for FINALLY putting me at the top of the > list. You Robinites are always calling Barry the Number One Bad Person and > I'm actually FED UP with that. The guy is a cupcake compared to me! A > cupcake I say! FWIW, I still love you. Tee hee. > > I am with Share on this, that Barry is a cupcake. He has a rather abrasive > exterior but there is a non-sentimental compassion inside (remember the cat > he fished out of the canal - post #321899?). > > [image: Far Side by Gary Larson] > > [http://img2.etsystatic.com/004/0/6329570/il_fullxfull.372475046_5l8h.jpg] > > I will not say he is without flaws. But he is far more instructive than > the spiritual vampires and crazies that inhabit FFL. A dear friend took me > to a church service the other day, and the talk was about spiritual > vampires. Now some might think Barry, as turquoiseb, is a spiritual > vampire, but this is hardly the case. He has a life, he is not walking > among the undead who have no life. Despite his gruffness, and oft > crudeness, he has a healthy degree of spiritual perception, even if it is > perceived, as with most of us, it is slightly bent. > > Now take Robin. He was a spiritual predator. He claims to have reformed; > many doubt this; if he has not succeeded, perhaps tomorrow or the next day.* > > *If you reject absolutely any single > sensation without stopping to discriminate > with respect to that which awaits confirmation > between matter of opinion and that which > is already present, whether in sensation > or in feelings or in any immediate perception > of the mind, you will throw into confusion > even the rest of your sensations by your > groundless belief and so you will be > rejecting the standard of truth altogether. > If in your ideas based upon > opinion you hastily affirm as true all > that awaits confirmation as well as that > which does not, you will not escape error, > as you will be maintaining complete > ambiguity whenever it is a case of > judging between right and wrong opinion. > - Epicurus > > Robin also has a healthy degree of spiritual perception, but from my > perspective it has a twist to it, it is bent, bent in a very unusual, > difficult-to-define way, in a way not like anyone else here, and even in > his own words, incomplete. There is hope for him, at least I hope there is > hope. The interesting phenomenon here is what circles about his diminished > flame. If Robin asipires to truth, then those circling bats of darkness > will inhibit his recovery. This includes those who became his prey and > cannot forgive him, and those new groupies that find in him a champion of > supposed truth. Since he has not found it yet, as he said, then it would > seem that that championship is not on solid ground. > > As for Share, she seems a sweetie, and, like me, a generalist, not into > picayune argumentation for the most part. Alex wonders whyl she has > embedded herself in the mess here. Perhaps she is testing herself, to find > her weaknesses. Spiritual 'illumination' does not make one automatically a > genius at anything; if anything it forces you to become truly curious about > what is significant in one's life - insight does not come by rehashing old > forms, you have to try something different. > > As for Ann, she puzzles me. Seems to have a dark streak I did not expect. > Maybe she has had a few bad days. > > As for JS, the following seems more and more applicable as time goes on. > It is really kind of sad. Maybe this is part of being on a spiritual forum, > that we gradulally sink to the lowest level as we bicker back and forth > amongst ourselves. You have to come up for air from time to time. Curtis > does this by taking long breaks. Barry does it by not getting too > interactive, though he posts frequently. > > SPIRITUAL VAMPIRES (from the book 'Spiritual Vampires' by Marty Raphael) > > Spiritual Parasites > > The spiritual parasites are the ones who are not conscious of their > vampiring. They vampire simply because it was also done to them. > Frequently, due to compulsive subconscious repetition, spiritual parasites > find themselves in careers that are natural set ups for them, for example, > teaching, counseling, or any other service-related activity. They then > vampire others in the same way vampiring was done to them. The > dysfunctional family is a type of spiritual parasite in that each of the > family members agrees to be less than whole in order to participate in the > family dance. > > Spiritual Predators > > Spiritual predators are spiritual workers who understand how people give > their power away to them. But they do nothing to prevent it because they > secretly enjoy the status and validation of having power over others. One > therapist told me outright that this goes on all the time in his practice. > I asked him why he allowed the unconscious abdication of power to continue > in his clients. He said that he saw this phenomenon as a psychic food > chain. The people on the lower levels of the psychic food chain > automatically give the more highly evolved beings their power. He said, > "They don't consciously do it, but they don't mind either because that's > the way it's always been." What happened to the idea that therapists are > trained and dedicated to support people's empowerment? > > Spiritual Perpetrators > > The third type of spiritual vampire is the perpetrator. Spiritual > perpetrators internal lives are such moral wastelands that, in order to > maintain spiritual lives at all, they actively seek out victims for > spiritual blood. They have no concern about the effect this has on their > victims' souls. They are usually charming, charismatic, and cunning. They > are soul murderers. > > > While I have brought up the subject of spiritual vampires, Barry brought > up NPD in reference to RWC. I am not qualified to diagnose this; for anyone > interested, here are a list of symptoms: > > NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER > > Symptoms > By Mayo Clinic staff > > Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional > behavior, which is in the same category as antisocial and borderline > personality disorders. > > Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include: > Believing that you're better than others > Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness > Exaggerating your achievements or talents > Expecting constant praise and admiration > Believing that you're special and acting accordingly > Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings > Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans > Taking advantage of others > Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior > Being jealous of others > Believing that others are jealous of you > Trouble keeping healthy relationships > Setting unrealistic goals > Being easily hurt and rejected > Having a fragile self-esteem > Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional > > Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like > having confidence or strong self-esteem, it's not the same. Narcissistic > personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence and > self-esteem into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a > pedestal. In contrast, people who have healthy confidence and self-esteem > don't value themselves more than they value others. > > When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as > conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You > may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may have > a sense of entitlement. And when you don't receive the special treatment to > which you feel entitled, you may become very impatient or angry. You may > insist on having "the best" of everything â€" the best car, athletic club, > medical care or social circles, for instance. > > But underneath all this behavior often lies a fragile self-esteem. You > have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may > have a sense of secret shame and humiliation. And in order to make yourself > feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and efforts to belittle > the other person to make yourself appear better. > > When to see a doctor > When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may not want to think > that anything could be wrong â€" doing so wouldn't fit with your self-image > of power and perfection. But by definition, a narcissistic personality > disorder causes problems in many areas of your life, such as relationships, > work, school or your financial affairs. You may be generally unhappy and > confused by a mix of seemingly contradictory emotions. Others may not enjoy > being around you, and you may find your relationships unfulfilling. > > If you notice any of these problems in your life, consider reaching out to > a trusted doctor or mental health provider. Getting the right treatment can > help make your life more rewarding and enjoyable. > > > I have been just throwing a few ideas out here, I have mostly not wanted > to get into the current discussions, but as the current ongoings have been > so weird, I thought I would throw something into the ring. > > >
